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08 Sep

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We are keeping an eye on it for sure. More so after the missiles.

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I think that's been fairly offset a bit by the fact it just got 6 of one of the best missiles in game.

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Not currently, since the Germans have both the F-4F early and late with AIM-9J and MiG-21MF with R-60s.

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It was fixed as per this report:



Please report all bugs in the correct section, this is a not a bug report topic



Not in a week no, after a very long time of searching for the needed sources to prove it was possible.

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I should also clarify, this wasn't just decided on a whim for 24 hours. We have been searching ourselves for some time for info on the Italian/Turkish F-104s. Recently we located some additional info on other European F-104Gs with AIM-9Js that also contributed towards the decision.


The choice was to leave Italy with the F-104S and only AIM-9Bs as its sole top tier for some time, whilst everyone else has more current technology in the meantime and Italy would be forced to wait until much later all aspect missiles and a later F-104S modification is introduced with said missiles or g

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The difference being here there is phsysically no way in any form to mount the gun at the same time as AIM-7 is mounted as there is no room for the gun. Its quite literally impossible.


Whereas F-104Gs and S could mount AIM-9J.


So the two comparisons are not the same.

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RB24 was within the Swedish inventory and cleared for use on all aircraft. We have seen no information that is was in any way incompatible or never used on the Viggen. We do not solely use manuals. Regardless, I'm not sure what this has to do with an Italian topic in the Italian section.


Back on topic, given Italy's situation and based on the Turkish use of the F-104G and S as well as other European use of AIM-9J on the F-104G series, it was decided by the developers to provide both the F-104S and G for Italy with the AIM-9J. It's now live on production:

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Nowhere in that rule does it mention we plan to add even more when we have already started removing them. Only that the ones that remain need to be replaced.

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They haven't been removed yet because there is currently no replacement. Not due to balance.


It also does not mean we are going to add more similar vehicles, when we already started removing unhistorical vehicles (KT105, Panther II and Flak 341).


07 Sep

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For the German F-4F, there is primary documentation supporting the AIM-9J. We would require similar evidence for the French F-100:

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France never had countermeasures on their F-8E (FN) aircraft as far as all current sources show. As well as this, aside from a couple of photos of an AGM-12 which we are investigating, the French Crusaders had none of the ground strike ordinance of the American F-8s as they were purely for fleet defence / air interception.


Initial repair cost is decided taking into account many factors, such all current and similar aircraft in and around the tree is going in and the players that typically play them. From there, its adjusted further in future economy updates.

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RoF has always been a middle ground between source material and balance.

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At the moment, I think the general census was more info is needed on it.


The suggestions were not approved due to a lack of specifications and supporting material. The guidelines for vehicle suggestions make it clear what's required.

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Im not exactly sure what you mean by this question?


If you mean do we have information on it, we have everything that has thus far been submitted on the forum.

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Generally the developers are open to consider any weaponry for an aircraft so long as it has sufficient links to the aircraft in question. However that decision ultimately lies with the developers and designers. Not anyone here on the forum.

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If you have sufficient source material to back that up, please submit a historical report. Nobody has so far.



We have been responding here all day and as I have said twice before, if someone actually has valid source material, it needs to be submitted for review.


We have not been ignoring anything. There has been nothing of actual substance submitted for us to do anything with so far.

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As we have already said, the initial response was that all aspect was kept back based on balance. Now thats no longer the case, however the unique features of the missile in terms of how its modelled needed extra work. As far as im aware, its not about lacking source material.

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As legally required in the USA at the time. It was still a German F-4F.


Here is the same aircraft:


Coupled with the fact as I said, two primary manuals also support this.


As far as this discussion goes, it every clear we have gone as far as possible. We have explained everything so far as they all follow the same standards.


In the meantime, we will continue our search for AIM-9J links on the Italian 104G and S and encourage anyone who finds any new material to submit s historical report

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AIM-9J is on both the German F-4F flight manual and weapons manual as well as the fact it was fired by German F-4Fs in the USA.


Similarly we have sources from DMM confirming the EJ Kai could mount AIM-9J. As well as it being in Japanese inventory.


Both of those are backed by primary documentation.


You are comparing that to "Italy considered buying it" . These do not even compare.



Because many of the tanks we have in game never fired any form of live or "combat effective" ammunition at all. Without the ability to balance by rounds of a s