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Tanks are not aircraft. Just as Ships are not tanks.

It's not a link at all.

You link was entirely consistent of "the Italian air force considered buying AIM-9H". No tests. No evaluation. Nothing at all.

By the same logic. Britain could get the F-111 because "they considered buying it" or Germany the Harrier Gr.1 because "they considered buying it"

We don't have "fluctuating" standards. It's the same standards as always. Because you cannot meet them, does not mean they are in flux.

Because when it comes to aircaft, the "pylon commonality" justification you use opens up more issues than it solves. As I have said, following your reasoning, every aircraft with AIM-9B would be open to AIM-9J in game. That's precisely why we don't follow that for aircraft. It's not the same situation as tanks all.

1 of 2 reasons.

1) the missile is too powerful for the game currently and we are not there from a technology perspective yet.

2) the aircraft already has several stronger missiles, so we don't add the very weak ones.

That would depend on the outcome of any historical reports submitted.

The point being, R-60M being added does not automatically equate to AIM-9L being added. The two missiles are entirely different.

The fact they are both all aspect is about all they share. We already had an all aspect missile in the game on the MIG-23 before the R-60M.

Even with that, the MIG-23 was the bottom of the 11.0 BR bracket in efficiency.

Indeed it's not. Because this is not a tank. Tank shells are a balancing mechanic. All aircraft weponary have followed the same standards they always have. Which is a requirement for a source linking the

AIM-9L is an entirely different and far more powerful missiles than the R-60M.

As I have said, if we can find any source linking AIM-9J to the Italian 104S. Something can be considered.

The "it could fire it" as we have already made clear is not how we decide things. Otherwise that means everything from the Sea Hawk 100, G.91 or Scimitar could get AIM-9J simply going by pylon commonality.

I should also make clear, we ourselves have been trying to find anything at all that links the 9J to the 104G or S for Italy also. Just sadly nothing has come u

Both. We cannot generally just add something solely because it's asked for if an aircraft is already doing well (see AIM-9G on the British Phantoms). However, coupled with feedback, the MIG-23 was the worst on its BR bracket before. Which greatly factors and gives the feedback more backing.

Not the U. The F-8E

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That's generally because at the same time Russia went through about 10-15 vehicles, those nations probably had 1-2 or stuck with the same aircraft and only made some slight modifications. Whilst in the process installing far more powerful missiles than anything else in game currently.

The Russian one is not the same as the British really.

And yes that's correct, Japan got one too. Joint first with Britain still and with Britian still having two of the best jets in game, getting even better this patch

Proving the point still that plenty of other nations have had firsts recently.

After going a year between MIG-21s and a very long time between MIG-21s, leading behind most nations with Jet CAS options and also themselves having several long gaps between new technology developments in the last few years.

Britain was the first to get PD radars last patch and the joint first of the Skyflash this patch. With the two best performing Phantoms in game and likely once again this patch.

Let's not make this into a "nah Russian bias" please.

And even with that missile, as I said, the MIG-23 is the worst performing 11.0 bracket aircraft.

Red Top is currently being investigated source and materials wise. It's not linked to the addition of any other all aspect. Plus we have had an all aspect missile recently already with the existing one on the MIG-23.

Even with that, the MiG-23 is currently the worst performing jet in the 11.0 bracket.

AIM-9L is an entirely different and significantly better missile in terms of air-to-air combat for jets. It's not coming now.

One random 3rd party website is not really sufficient at all.

Again, if you get more sources, please feel free to submit a historical report. It doesn't need to be discussed in Rumour roundup every time someone finds a new one.

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All you need, as I have said 3 times now, is any valid source material directly linking the F-104S to the AIM-9J or such. The exact same way we have sources for the F-4F linking it to AIM-9J and the exact same way all other aircraft in game have been handled. Its nothing to do with playerbase size.

As soon as someone submits a valid source, we will be more than happy to consider it.