Eco Dev Tracker

And again over the limit:
The point I really want to make is that there is no such thing as generalized players. I have real life friends that only touch Eco out of support for me as they only play games with triple A graphical spectacle - what they do being rather irrelevant, fully fine if playtime is only 8 hours for $99 and a slog during that, then they are finished. Yet, we have players already not happy about the animations we do have so far, as they value efficiency over atmosphere.

I don't care about graphics, I mostly play sandbox and roleplay games. I would never buy most AAA titles and have the rule of a game must provide 1 hour of playtime per buck or I don't buy it. I don't have any more time as my friends (and neither have family responsibilities yet and all work full time). And it's been a problem to find games to play together for a while, because despite us mostly playing at the same time, we tend to play different games, just sitting in TeamSpeak toget...

The claim isn't false - you are assuming that most other players would think like you. But that isn't the case. It ultimately is a game - which means players can join and leave whenever they please. There is no way we could give people a real sense of urgency that would make their thoughts adjust to it as if the same happened in real life (and then we'd honestly only have looting and crime, at least in my opinion), if they aren't already willing to do so. And it's simply a matter of fact that the absolute vast majority of players do not adjust to roleplay that setting and behave in a way that you would expect people to do when faced with this knowledge. They build up a very normal society, without the meteor controlling their thoughts in the meanwhile and focus on it once they are ready. Panic at most comes up when the timer is nearing the end and they're having difficulty to get together the last needed materials.

Funny side note: There absolutely is meteor denial, it's ac...

We haven't thought about fixing it, because it is not a bug and working as intended. If it is very distracting for you personally, not picking up rocks until while mining is a easy solution. I added your request to the internal suggestion we already had about this by three other users, but given the number of requests is very low I can't make you any hopes that we'd change anything about that soon.

You cannot and it doesn't work like that - to get the exact same world again you need the exact same WorldGenerator .eco file, just saving the map seed will not give you the same world. If you haven't generated a new world since you created this map the file will still be the same. You find it in /Steam/steamapps/common/Eco/Eco_Data/Server/Configs. Note that you can only generate a world via this file by starting the dedicated server manually, as trying to start a new game with random seed from within the game will overwrite whatever it currently contains.

If you just didn't get your settings right, you can just create a new world (and backup the file above if you want for the future) and reconfigure the settings - these will also apply when loading your old world, as settings in Eco are not per world.

Given my text space went out, there is one more thing I wanted to note:
Eco, contrary to potentially popular belief, was never made to depict a specific way of how things should be done. While many of our team would probably classify as people that would appreciate getting to a Star Trek society, Eco was developed with the idea that players figure out themselves what works and what does not and we don't judge at all when a dictatorship works best for some people or if they use the most weird economic systems. The point is offering many different options on how to found a society. And depending on who plays on any specific server opinions can vary massively and so do majorities. Settlements were also introduced to allow like-minded players to get together more locally, making governance easier, as multiple systems can co-exist and only need to compromise on more global matters. We're not here to judge how players approach the goal, on if that is a utopian approach, a fully capi...

Well, because we are in Early Access and not all features we want are yet implemented.

We are actually going to change logistics to require manual intervention in a way similar to what you talked about. Inventory transfers will be limited to very short range transfers and require calories that only allow sorting compact facilities, mass transfers and big sized goods are supposed to require vehicles to transport. We had a post on that a good while back with shelves, containers, forklifts and container ships - and if we did trains, they would be used for exactly that as well. Stockpile elevators as you are probably known to currently are actually an exploit resulting from the fact that we couldn't make this possible yet. We never intended for players to creatively chain link a mechanic that is intended for short range inventory access and sorting to be used as an efficient transport mechanic. But we also see no reason to do something against that until we have our logistics o...

Well, all personal experiences, including mine, will be solely anecdotical. I see that regularly on the servers I play or visit, which is mostly bigger and economy focused servers. Digging contracts even were a nice early game way to earn money quickly for newer players and I tend to have my basement be digged out that way as well. White Tiger itself actually doesn't do that anymore, as we have UBI and just spawn the government basements.

With the second part of your post the problem is the assumption that this would need to be reconciled, which it doesn't as the difference is fully intended. Digging and Mining are different activities, with the latter being in much higher demand throughout the whole cycle and being a much more lasting task compared to Digging (when not terraforming, which is not intended at early stages), so it also can work differently. It also doesn't use a tool to pickup or hold materials. Shovels have always allowed to transfer the maximum amount quick...

The change to give them more carry capacity lately already was a compromise we made requiring at least progression, given many in the team (me included) don't think that should be possible at all - we ultimately agreed on that players at least shouldn't be able to pick up that amount of stuff from the start without machinery. Terraforming, often used as a absolutely valid argument for it, is just specifically not supposed to happen that early as of the design intention of the vanilla game. It is one prime example of what should feel really hard to do until you get into later game.

Chances for us to do that are hence currently near-zero. (And then we'd need a mod to revert it, as multiple of the bigger and more economical collaboration focused servers consider this easy-mode and detrimental for the economy that also works off manual labour contracts, including official server White Tiger.)

I think with the progression based compromise and the ability to use a mod for...

But they would win ... SCNR.

But, no really, what would this change? You can already coordinate with other players to fight them economically or with annexation. Any tactical warfare system would just require resources as well and hence require the same coordination with which you can already fight them within the existing system.

While possible, that is not yet planned.

As with most games, servers hosted by the community are managed to the liking of their owners. We're not responsible for nor monitor community servers. Our ToS applies to Eco servers just like it does to any player. (Means mostly no-zero-tolerance policy content, no exchange of money for any kind of ingame advantage, etc.)

Rename your current install to \Eco2, download the new server into \Eco, then copy over the configs and storage directory from \Eco2 to \Eco, without overwriting the configs when asked, so the templates of the new server stay.

Removed for rule 4 - the post solely serves as information about a server, people being given the join details in the comments. No actual help of any kind was requested that could be given via reddit itself - hence classified a try to circumvent rule 4.

Download the new server and move over your configs (without overwrite, to not override the templates) and storage directory from the old, then start the new one. Monzuns approach can leave files around that should be gone, which can include the web directory and is generally more time costly.

That's not insane but average european taxing, especially given endgame recipes need to be funded - next to other countless projects WT has. Sales tax doesn't apply to flying traders without skills at all. Everyone gets universal basic income that is untaxable. Also, you are free to try reaching the goal with lower taxes by going into politics - they are not set by the administration. Insane taxation much rather applies to groups with lots of differing skills, but that's the point of the system.

Only N-S and W-E highways are pre-districted and need the respective title from the Federal Government to work on them. This cycle they don't exist though, as winning the domination victory led to the winner choosing them being replaced with boat canals for this cycle as the victory reward.

Removed due to rule 4.

That's where I came from to Eco, though you missed the ecology mods.

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Am I the only one not calling White Tiger hardcore?

You can also send them via mail, but given we used GitHub for development in the past and still for our Dev Tier users, many players (and people in general) already have an account there - in opposite to any other solution that would also require creation of an account. We don't have the resources to make custom software for that.