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so having 2 people wanting mid in my team and no support in my team, someone banning my champ and everyone flaming in champ select is ok to you? when i have games as those i just dodge to save my nerves...

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i still get vocal cord blisters

TL;DR: LCS is weak and LEC is creative. Sounds about right ;-)

I wish I could talk in more specifics about the system, but I don't work on that team and I don't know the specifics. 😞 (let me reach out to the team tho, see if there's some more insight they can provide!) I do know that the system isn't a black-and-white punishment system (so you're spot-on with the granularity idea!), and I do know that the team who works on it does experiment with the system and does research on ways to improve it! I just want you to know that 1) we hear ya, 2) we know it sucks (we feel ya!), and 3) we're always looking for ways to prevent these things from happening, or reduce the pain when it's hard to prevent, so we appreciate players like you who care and give us this feedback! 😊

oh boy, I see where I mess up here. I'm sorry for not being more clear in this regard! 😅 we do have a team whose purpose is researching and solving these problems, and they do hire smart PhD CS and data science folk and they do use ML algorithms to solve these problems, so you're not wrong in that regard!

My intention was to highlight some domain-specific constrains when dealing with the general idea of "punishing leavers", as well as show the different trade-offs that we might consider when building and fine-tuning the systems we use to execute this idea. We all want the same thing - punish the toxic players, and don't punish the non-toxic players! And while no system is perfect, acknowledging that fact does not make your pain around this system any less legitimate. My hope is that when players read what I've written, they understand a bit more about what's going on behind the scenes and "why things are they way they are", but also that Riot hears their pain and is working...

"Appealing their leaver punishment" feels like a good amendment to make to the system, but I think it reduces to the same problem we originally have: how do you determine if someone left for legitimate or malicious reasons? And when you start to think about specific things someone could show to demonstrate their innocence, how can we make sure those things can't be faked by malicious players? It's tough, it really is...

I like how "not gaining/losing LP if you get flagged by the leaver system but your team still wins" sounds initially, so I'll iterate on some thought I have about the specifics below.

1) if you leave in the middle of the game and don't come back, regardless of your intention, you've put your team at a significant disadvantage. The fact that they overcame that and won is awesome, but we can't really give them more LP for overcoming that hurdle (that's just ripe for LP abuse). In this case, I think it makes sense to punish the player for how they punis...

I agreed to try and help with anything. I'm the wrong person to talk to about this but that won't stop me from offering advice on things I shouldn't give advice about.

There have definitely been some wonky picks in top. My uninformed guess is that popular bruise-y melee toppers like Gnar & Gatorman need an early lead to press their advantage into the mid game before they get outscaled by most bot lane carries. If their power spike is delayed long enough, then they end up not being relevant (or way less relevant) when they finally come online, hence why we're seeing safe but abusive folks like Kennen, Tristana, and Karma up there. Maybe we'll see Caitlyn top; that'd be a fun to watch scribbles in the script

Yet from what I see of the screenshots, this specific layout is the first 10 games or so. Not sure how many people fall into the "I played two games and then churned" bucket. Seems like a pretty niche audience.

Both u/HubblePie and u/sinderling touched on the heart of the problem here:

1) How do you determine intention based on behavior?

(To a lesser degree, there's the additional problem of "How do you execute (1) in such a way that people cannot game the system?", but let's focus on the main problem here)

It is really really difficult to be absolutely certain of what someone else's intention is, when all you can observe is their behavior. And I'm not just talking about software and games here - this is a good life lesson to remember when you're dealing with problems betwe...

Yes! This was a change on uBlock that broke some of our site. Should be fixed now :)

Meh

So this is why I never won with him in playtests

Hello fantastic fellow friends. Some info on what happened, what's happening, and what's gonna happen.

What happened? We made a mistake that prevented you from getting credit. We fixed this issue and you should be able to get credit by watching VODs and live matches now. You may not be able to get credit for rewatching a VOD you watched earlier while missions were not working. Read on to the what's gonna happen section for how we're going to fix this.

What's happenin'? Not much, hbu? How about that [champion] pick in [team] vs [team]?

What's gonna happen? We are working to grant mission credit to those who watched at least 10 minutes of Worlds while logged in, no matter when you watched, so you don't need to puzzle together what you may have already watched or not to get credit. We'll do it for you. This should happen within the next couple days and I'll update this thread once it's complete.

Things...

There may be specific issues with your configuration, especially if you are using tools like uBlock / blocking all JS etc.

Can you reproduce those same issues if you are watching on a "clean" browser?

Unfortunately there is no set "source" for issues on rewards :(

It's a pretty complicated service with dependencies across both the game (for missions) and on watch.lolesports.com itself. While we have made substantial updates to the quality of Rewards, whenever major changes happen to either the game or watch it has the potential for breaking Rewards too.

Hooray for code!

Hi friends,

We had some unexpected issues with the Rewards service this morning. We are actively investigating, and I will post an update shortly.

Quick ninja edit - the issue has been identified. All of the games which were watched earlier today have still been recorded, you should get credit over the next 48 hours for that watchtime.

Cool , glad to hear it