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26 Jan

List of least used items (sub-1% pickrate)

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Originally posted by nozozo_y

The item is slept on. It has the same stats as youmuus but 200G cheaper. Also the passive is worth if they have any shields at all. If the supp gives a tiny 50hp shield from aery, serpents does like 200 extra damage to that target

Yeah I think people get pretty hung up on the passive and ignore the fact that it is one of the highest damage/gold purchases you can buy as a lethality user (post-mythic). If a team has any shields at all and you're an assassin, you should be thinking about this item.

skarner in urf is quite something

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Has science gone too far?

How does Riot decide to make a champion manaless?

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Originally posted by Warchief_Darthy

If I recall, Viego is manaless for similar reasons as Yasuo and Yone. The fact that by default, they’re spamming out a really weak ability (their Q) that scales moderately well with stats. And since Viego’s Q is his only form of sustain, even more reason for him to be manaless.

At least, that’s what I recall August saying whenever he was asked. But it’s been a couple weeks since that stream, so I’m not 100% sure if I’m remembering right.

Edit I’ll emphasize that I’m not entirely sure the reasons I gave are the correct ones. I do remember Riot August being asked why Viego was manaless during a stream, and I think he said it was a similar enough reason as to why Yasuo and Yone are both manaless. But I’m not entirely sure if my memory is correct.

I replied with another large reason, but this is also another important point. Good call out!

How does Riot decide to make a champion manaless?

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We decided to make Viego manaless somewhat early in his development process since we found there was a lot of confusion around mana when you entered/exited bodies.

Should new body champion abilities cost mana? Should they use his mana or their mana? If it uses theirs, how much mana will Viego have when he exits (does he gain PoM and passive mana regen from his pool, or is it static the whole time)? Should his ult have a mana cost (reset ability)?

Felt it would add sadge QoL issues around his fantasy/high point.


25 Jan

Rell PBE Changes Don't Make Sense

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Originally posted by Necroside

> I don't believe we are looking to do work on him

I asked since me along with the majority of Veigar players were under the assumption he would receive buffs due to Mark Yetter/Scruffy saying he would be looked into on his earlier tweets in this month.

Yeah I just wanted to differentiate "doing work" and a simple buff. I interpreted doing work as in some level of a rework, which we don't have planned. I would say to expect buffs if he does hit below oracle lines, which I believe he is either there or very close to there.


24 Jan

By riot games own balance framework [Released less than a year ago] there are currently 25 CHAMPIONS who are up for a nerf.

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Originally posted by __under_score__

just out of curiosity... how has camille not been touched at all? she has been so strong for so long. I also agree winrate is not very indicative of champion strength, as irelia feels insanely unfun and broken to play against if the user knows what they are doing and her winrate is trash. I get that you guys mean well and are working on creating a more balanced environment in the last couple of patches, but some champions seem to completely evade nerfs when they obviously deserve some.

Short answer: Camille's winrate and banrate do not meet the criteria for nerfs.

Long answer: Our data indicates Camille is strong. However, banrate (and to a lesser extent winrate), is a zero-sum game. Using a recent example, Darius and Graves/Yi ate up a huge portion of banrate/winrate in their role. This can cause champions right below them (say Camille/Kha) to not trigger the framework, even though they feel powerful and are very popular. It's by no means a flawless system, but it gives us a great place to start looking.

By riot games own balance framework [Released less than a year ago] there are currently 25 CHAMPIONS who are up for a nerf.

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To add some clarity here, the balance framework takes into account winrate, pickrate, and banrate when flagging champions for nerfs.

In short, this means that just because a champion has >52.5% winrate, does not mean it is strictly overpowered by our standards.

That's not to say some current chamions are not 'OP' atm, but that I would be careful only using winrate as an indicator for what's imbalanced.

Our framework is also our system to point out distinct outliers. When we look at each patch, we also investigate champions that are close to our metrics, and evaluate if there's something that needs to be addressed.

As stated elsewhere in the thread, with our preseason changes, some of these champions may be beneficiaries of outlier items. If we think the class/item is an outlier, we may choose to hit the item instead of directly hitting the champion. The same works in reverse for potential buffs in preseason.

LEC 2021 Spring / Week 1 - Day 3 / Live Discussion

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Originally posted by RomanArcheaopteryx

Don't know if they see these on reddit but I have no Twitter so - I really enjoyed the "Lover's Duo" thought it was so funny - get MediVedi on there next!

This is a pleasant surprise. I was nervous it didn't quite hit the mark I had hoped.

1/22 PBE Update: Crystal Rose Splash Art & Tentative Balance Changes

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Originally posted by Skitter1200

Do you sometimes mess with numbers internally just to see what kind of horrific abomination you can create? Because that is something I would do.

Yes

Rell PBE Changes Don't Make Sense

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Originally posted by Necroside

With that said (if you are allowed to say that is)

Have the potential changes just been scrapped overall or are they still in development? or it's just you really don't know about it period :o

I appreciate the initial response nevertheless and your time Yonggi.

The context that I know is that he is either tripping oracle lines or is close, I don't believe we are looking to do work on him, but I would say buffs are likely if he does end up tripping those oracle lines.


23 Jan

1/22 PBE Update: Crystal Rose Splash Art & Tentative Balance Changes

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Originally posted by RequiemRed

This is probably the wrong place to ask, but is Lee Sin w ap ratio going from 80% to 55% a bug or undocumented change?

Sounds like a bug to me but idk lemme verify

1/22 PBE Update: Crystal Rose Splash Art & Tentative Balance Changes

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Originally posted by RenegadeExiled

Phlox, I was wondering if you could confirm if anyone was keeping an eye on Aurelion Sol after those changes to Mandate? He already felt rough to play, having to invest in Rylais before he got any real damage, and the change to IM has me worried that we're just going to struggle even more

Definitely watching all the old mandate solo laners

Rell PBE Changes Don't Make Sense

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Originally posted by manbearbeaver

But the goal isn’t to make Q max the optimal route right? It’s just to put it more inline with the her other abilities? Because I can get behind that, but I have a slight problem with the designer having a preferential skill order.

The designer has less of a preferential skill order, and more of a way he designed the champ to feel, and when Q feels bad it's something that'd be nice to address. Really that simple, and like you said, it's just to bring it in line.

Rell PBE Changes Don't Make Sense

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Originally posted by manbearbeaver

Why do you want to control what people are maxing? What’s the point of artificially making a certain skill order “correct”, she’s a support why would you want to max the damage ability, when you could max utility?

I have mentioned it somewhere else, but it's not because we want them to specifically have more damage, it's because we want all 4 abilities to feel like they are pulling their weight, and unfortunately Q doesn't feel like it when it's not maxed. (W and E still do, as like you said, they are heavy CC/resist utility).

Rell PBE Changes Don't Make Sense

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Originally posted by Necroside

With that said (if you are allowed to say that is)

Have the potential changes just been scrapped overall or are they still in development? or it's just you really don't know about it period :o

I appreciate the initial response nevertheless and your time Yonggi.

I genuinely have no idea. Admittedly I don't play veigar (or really much mid in general) so I don't spend much brainpower keeping up with or chasing down changes in that space specifically.




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