Ah this is an interesting question. Rito said that if she picks cunning kitten, it doesn't count as created, but what if she herself is created? It will definitely come up quite a bit because of the champ spell is so hot in hand.
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It's thankfully straightforward: if she's not created, her disguises won't count as created. If she is created, like by her champion spell, her disguises count as created.
thanks for doing this, this is brilliant
Would that prevent you playing a new Neeko? Or does it still count as having a Neeko on the field?
A silenced disguised Neeko still counts as a Neeko, and any Neekos in hand will be still be champ spells until she leaves play.
If disguise ends when the unit leaves play, would Junk Construct’s death effect trigger?
Yep! Last Breath will trigger.
How does Neeko work as bitsy lizard? I'm guessing she still is neeko but stronger tomato 🍅, but the transform text suggests overriding. And what if she is minimorphed while disguised?
Correct! Neeko's true identity persists through all transforms.
A permanent silence like Minimorph will forever trap Neeko in her follower form. Any Neeko champ spells in hand won't transform back, however, as we didn't want to have this happen if the silence was temporary.
(but honestly at the point where your opponent is Purifying every 2 cost follower on sight, you've won the war)
Apologies if this isn't the preferred place for questions, but would Cunning Kitten count as created in this interaction? I'm assuming not as it would also be a pretty big give-away, but thought I'd double check!
Cunning Kitten does not count as created in this case. Neeko's disguises are considered alternate forms that the card can take, like Frostcoat Mother is to Frostcoat Cub, or Shadow in the Brush for Ambush units.
so disguise also works with play effects? so if i disguise neeko as deck hunter or spell slinger, i can use their play effects.
Correct! Followers that target work just fine, as do followers than Manifest. These are the only three that don't work.
Just tweeted this but wanted to make sure it's here for y'all too:
There are three 2 cost followers that are in her origin but will not appear in her disguise pool: Blastcone Seedling, Harbinger of Thralls, and Frostcoat Cub
These followers have choice options, which does not work with Neeko's disguise choice tech. When these options were present during dev, choosing them would give you the base card form e.g. you'd get a Blastcone Seedling with no keywords. This not only gave you a worse unit, but also gave away that you just played Neeko, so we really didn't want to let that happen.
The engineering required to make these cards work with Neeko is effectively a non-option, so after a few weeks of discussing different solutions, we aligned on having a banlist for exactly these three. This solve also lets us handle any future problematic 2c origin-subtyped followers should they arise.
All of the other...
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I did. Very cool. :)
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