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Can you guys just add a section explicitly telling us what tier we're on? Idk why we gotta play this guessing game with the times.
If you are playing in good faith you should not need to worry about your tier.
Can you guys just add a section explicitly telling us what tier we're on? Idk why we gotta play this guessing game with the times.
If you are playing in good faith you should not need to worry about your tier.
So what about people who have connection issues? My friend I duo with will typically disconnect once every other game for 30 seconds to a minute but never affects our games to much. He's pretty much f**ked under the new system?
No, it doesn’t count those as AFKs.
So I can int with impunity as long as I win a game between bouts of losing streaks?
I wouldn't. I think you're making a big assumption that this is our only detection system.
Idk, I only ever report people who are legit griefing (afk, feeding, saying where people are, etc...) or super verbally toxic, and I almost never get instant feedback reports. Gives me the impression that my report credibility would be tanked even though I’m reporting correctly
It’s way more complex than that, but what would actually affect it would be things like constantly reporting players who have bad games or off meta picks as feeding.
so, if someone who is actively trolling very obviously is only reported by one player he shouldn't be punished or be looked into at all? That seems to actively work against fixing trolling
This is in addition to, not instead of other detection methods we employ.
So... It's a progress system! Like Honor system! Great to know, another thing I can progress in! :D
In all seriousness, the changes look very scary - and I haven't AFKed in a LONG time. Now I worry that something random will start happening to my PC/connection and it'll penalize me. But I'm guessing that's the point! Thank you for your hard work, I'm looking forward to further development! Let's hope S11 will be the one which will make the game not known for its toxicity! have a nice day! :\)
If you disconnect every now and again there is a _very_ low chance that you are penalized for it.
If you disconnect all the time, then yes you will start receiving penalties from this.
I feel like reporting credibility can easily be a bad thing in a system that’s bad at punishing people. Like if I report someone that’s griefing, but because the system is bad it doesn’t detect that person as griefing, my report credibility will go down and the next time I report someone for griefing it’ll mean even less and push my credibility down further. At least that’s how I’m reading it
This system generally uses the law of large numbers to increase certainty.
This player would need to be reported for the same thing between multiple people across multiple games to be punished.
You would need to be consistently wrong in your judgements over a long period of time in order for your reports weight to be affected.
If they add stricter dodge penalties, then they 100% need to actually add punishments for holding lobbies hostage. If you don't get your role then there is currently no downside, autofilled jungle and midlane won't swap with you? No problem just lock in soraka take ghost and cleanse, either someone dodges, or you grief the game.
The ghost cleanse Soraka and the smite hecarim support games I let go through this season did not result in a ban for either player.
I'm 100% aware that these dodges make up the minority, but they still exist.
These cases certainly exist, but are slightly thornier problems to solve. We'll be digging into these in the future to understand how best to solve these problems.
- 3rd AFK: 14 day lockout and auto-loss
Nice!
Just to clarify, this is not the 3rd consecutive AFK but rather the 3rd AFK tier. Moving up each tier is slightly complex but in general going AFK/leaving will progress you up and playing games out honorably will progress you downwards.
Really sorry to hear about this friend. I'm sure this is a super difficult time.
For whatever its worth, I'm really glad you had fun with the game. Folks like you are why we do it.
Keep it real homie.
Well, think about how many similar changes would probably take "15 minutes tops" to fix. It quickly adds up in time. So they instead ignore low priority bugs like this to focus on bugs that are more likely to lose them revenue. Cause who's really suffering from not being able to build Seraph's with Lifeline items.
Not saying its right, but its how companies work. They focus on the bigger stuff and maybe never get to the little stuff.
Another perspective that helps prioritize things is considering factors like severity and incidence rate.
This has low incidence rate: very very few builds ask for this combination of items This has low severity: it doesn’t crash the server, it doesn’t create infinite stats, it doesn’t stop abilities from working, etc
Disclaimer: I am not part of our QA team and do not represent their craft. I am an idiot designer who should not be commenting on a quality thread.
just speakin the truth
Can't believe Paul let you get away with this.
Fixed an issue where scaling the HUD could break parts of the shop. (Allan, add a joke about scaling here.)
Damn it Allan
(Barack, Respond to the comment about your stupid joke.)
You can now drag the corner of the shop to scale the size up and down. Be careful, it's ticklish!
The best thing in this patch.
It scales into late game.
I think that’s exactly what they’re doing in this system. I don’t know how long or how much though 🤷🏼♂️
This is exactly what we’re doing. The penalty gets worse and lasts longer when you go afk/leave consecutive games. You have to work off your penalty with good behavior.
Wonder if they track average number of afks. It'd be interesting to see the effect these changes have on the number of afkers
Ya
"Fixed an issue that required you to have to press Shift+Enter twice in order to say "gg wp" after the Nexus explodes"
Finally this is fixed. Luckily not game breaking, but a bit frustrating. And also bold to assume everyone says gg wp.
That's what everyone always says right?
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and this post to somehow become a feature request. :sweatguy:
This is unreasonably good. Holy sh*t friend.
Ugh. I'll fix this now.