JagexHooli

JagexHooli



18 Mar

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Originally posted by Syning

Covering the charges for the next 31 days is nice but mine already charged me a week ago. This also seems like a bit of foreshadowing in terms of how long this is actually going to take. We have no idea though, because nobody will give a timeline. Either way, looking forward to tomorrow.

Although it doesn't help you already being charged, you'll still get your 31 days free right after your current paid month ends - so you won't see a charge next month if that helps.

In terms of the timing of the 31 days, we picked this amount of time purely for peace of mind we hope it offers compared to something shorter. There's no relation to timelines or anything.

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Update @ 19:30 Game Time, March 18

Hello everyone,

We have a few new updates to share today as we head towards the end of the week, including details of our next livestream.

Membership Time Covered

As our work to restore your accounts has continued, we've been increasingly aware of the impact to accessing your membership. We also know there is a genuine worry that your membership is ticking away or that the next billing cycle is right around the corner.Β 

As an interim step, we're going to be covering any membership or RuneMetrics subscription on impacted accounts for the next 31 days. This will prevent any auto billing charges in the near future and, at a minimum, ensure everyone gets any lost membership time covered by us. This will go into effect tonight.Β 

We hope this helps provide some measure of relief for your concerns, and please know this is just a small part of what we will do to make things right for those impacted.

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Originally posted by JackeryBug

Day 3 of yelling into the jagex customer service abyss...

Jagex, could I please get some information regarding why my account was locked on the 16th of March after having no issues or problems relating to the original roll back or login issues. I received no email, and have no clue why my account has been locked.

Thanks!

RSN: Mattbox.

We're gathering up RSNs of anyone who mentions this for the team to double check (thanks for sharing yours off the bat!). Thanks for the report.

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Originally posted by MrKalius

So. When is this week livestream?

Still this week. We're locking this down in the next hour or two based on some key meetings coming up.

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Originally posted by RadDadio

Looks like Jagex is slowly letting go of the situation. Becoming less and less communicative in hopes that they can slide this all under the rug one day. I checked the discord and found that they are now only posting the updates on their website. Today's update is ofcourse a complete copy of yesterday's update. Likely going this route to avoid our warranted complaints.

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/login-lockout-news

We haven't posted today's update today yet, I'm not sure why the Bot did that. We'll get that fixed (and make sure we keep posting natively to Discord).

On the communication front, we're saying as much as we can - we're just at a phase in development where it's about getting it done before we can say what's next. The information is coming.

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Originally posted by Village_People_Cop

When can we expect any actual communication? I was locked out 2 days ago instead of 2 weeks ago and I'm already going insane, I don't want to know how others are feeling

We can only communicate detail when we have it to share, as frustrating as we know that is to hear. We're in a development situation dealing with new techniques, tooling, service requirements and a ton more beyond that where everyone is moving as fast as possible.

Every day we are learning new things about the process, improving, and getting more accounts restored for testing. I can promise you there's a huge amount of time, passion and energy going into this - even if every day you aren't playing doesn't feel that way - but it's simply incredibly complex to pull off. By the day, we're seeing better and better results.

What we want to ensure is, when we get to Beta, we're really confident in the quality of the restoration work and all we're mostly just finding with players testing their accounts are outlier cases (or none at all).

The meaningful update we've promised is coming, it's just taking a little longer than we had hoped. We really do appreciate how m...

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Originally posted by LadyCovenant

If they've been sending out emails I haven't got them. Last update I got was on March 10th.

IGN: Ladyyedeje

Only people who are being manually locked will get one - some accounts need this as an added layer of protection while we do the restoration work so they can't log in before we've completed all the various elements.

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Originally posted by signmatt

Question: I received an email stating that I was locked out of osrs like 4-5 days ago. I've been locked out of rs3 since the beginning. They said in this update (17/3) that players will recieve an email. Are only those who are just now getting locked out getting this email or will all locked out players recieve the email?

Just those in the new 'wave' of accounts going through the lock will get the email, so it's expected you didn't get one.

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Originally posted by NoUnderstanding526

What about my membership im fully locked out i cant cancel my auto renew on my card and im afraid of overdrafting my bank account so will there be any compinsation or am i just gonna be out money?

You can cancel your Membership here without the ability to login: https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360000991618-Cancel-Recurring-Subscription-

Hope that helps!


17 Mar

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Hello everyone,

We're continuing our preparation work for the Restoration Phase. Tomorrow we will continue to disable log in permissions for additional accounts impacted by the Login Lockout. This will ensure these accounts are protected when we proceed with the restoration work.Β 

We'll send an email and an inbox message to all players in this position over the next few minutes – please also check your Junk folder as we’ve had a few reports of emails winding up there. Please note that not every player impacted by the Login Lockout will have their log in permissions disabled – this is a precautionary measure for a limited number of accounts.

On the development front, we are continuing to prep for the Account Integrity Beta. We’re continuing to home in on the translation of telemetry data into account profile data as we bring more and more accounts into testing. We're seeing better results by the day, but things are still progressing steadily. That said, we do...

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Originally posted by CyberHudzo

Any news on when the stream is going to take place, or are you making good progress on that too?

The stream timing is all based on when we have those meaningful updates ready to share, so we still don't know as yet. As soon as we have those from the development process, we'll be putting it together as quickly as we can.


16 Mar

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Originally posted by rsplayer123

I think their issue is they're locked out of their account since 3/4 and haven't had a response to their emails. Yet if they contact you about MTX you respond to them immediately....

Our Player Support team are still supporting a live game and that's a question about a live feature, so that's to be expected.

Our Player Support team are going to email any critical updates we have as soon as we have them, but there's not really much 1-1 support to offer beyond what we've been saying here at this time. It's not a reflection of priorities or care in any way if that helps.

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Originally posted by joe32176

I have to think you guys know the answer to this. Surely you know what’s going in an update that is less than a week away. You are either putting all your efforts into fixing the login issue or have diverted some people to work on upcoming releases. You know the answer to that, you just aren’t ready to share that answer. And maybe you, Hooli, don’t know and are just the unfortunate messenger. But certainly other folks at Jagex know the answer to this.

The potential update for March 22nd has been done for a while as it's the same update we had planned two weeks ago, albeit with some final release testing required. Because of that, we can be pretty flexible based on where everything is.

It really is provisional though - our priority remains everyone who can't play and we can't make definitive decisions until we lock our Beta date. We're not complete on testing just yet so we just don't know at this point.

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Originally posted by NoPudding5148

My turn to yell in to the abyss and be ignored.

Where are the updates?? I managed to send in a MTX related email asking about when I can spend more money, and the email was responded to within five hours.

I also sent some emails over the last 2 weeks regarding my account being locked, and those have never been responded to, I haven't even been graced with automatic messages.

What was your issue? We can see if we can help from our end.

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Originally posted by Lithe-

u/JagexHooli Please if nothing else can be done as this time to give us our accounts back help people who haven't received an email indicating that they are a part of this lockout, and whenever we try to login are greeted with an "invalid password' which is leaving tons of people stressed if we are part of this lockout or have had our accounts compromised. they added this to the error message " If you are certain you entered your details correctly then your account is currently being protected pending restoration. " and said they if your account is affected this would show up along with the invalid password but this shows up no matter what you try in to the username/password fields so its not easing the mind of any players while we are left in the dark trying to find out if we are part of this lockout or hacked.

Can you drop your RSN name here? We're already investigating some reports of this with Player Support so it would be a massive help!

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Originally posted by CyberHudzo

Let me get this right, the devs have been putting in a lot of hours, making good progress on the beta and internal account restoration for the past week or so, but you still dont have anything meaningful to share with the playerbase?

Is the restoration that much more difficult than expected? Are things in a worse state than you are saying? Does that mean we wont be able to login for another week or two (at best)?

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Originally posted by MakeAnOriginalDeck

So it sounds like the compensation won't be in communication with the players, it will be a decision made in a board room and sent out. There will be no opportunity for players to provide feedback that the compensation is in any way appropriate.

Sorry, to be clear, I was referring to how we get the discussion of our current thinking / intentions out there when it comes to what we do for impacted players, as we intended to cover that today.

It may still happen on the stream this week, earlier, or both - that's the bit we're discussing.

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Originally posted by wolfgang169

Is it still looking like next week's game update will go ahead? or will we have to wait until the livestream for proper confirmation.

It's still provisional at this point. We haven't reached a point where a decision has been made as work is still ongoing to prep the Beta for release.

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Originally posted by alargenumberofalots

Can you confirm whether or not you intend to release a game update on 22nd March, if you still have players that can't log in?

We haven't made that decision yet, it's still provisional at this stage.

The full focus is on the Beta work that's ongoing right now. These are the kind of answers we want to have for you before any stream takes place, and we still need some more development work until we're at that point.

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Originally posted by legolasvin

On 22nd, which will be the earliest one can expect people to get back in (unrealistic), people will have been locked out for 18 days. With this statement of yours that "you don't have answers now so livestream postponed", makes me think that account access won't be restored before 29th. You lot pretty much delay everything by a week because "weekly update". That will be 25 days, 25 f**king days that people will have been locked out. How is this acceptable in 2021?

Continuing to thank us for our "patience" only goes so far. How the f**k is it taking so long if it's just 1% of the accounts. At this point that number is just a straight up lie. f**king imagine how long it would have taken if it was more than the "1%" number that you claim. People would be locked out for months.

The time this is taking isn't about the number of accounts involved, but the fact we're using telemetry to fill those data gaps we talked about. It's taking something not designed for that purpose and completely reshaping it.

The reason this is taking as long as it is because of how complex it is to do that - after all the investigation, we've been building brand new tools, processes, data profiling, QA processes and a Beta environment. If you exclude the investigation time, that's all been done in just a week.

We are doing everything we can to make this happen as soon as possible, and when our Livestream rolls around later this week, we'll be talking about progress in a much much more meaningful way than we could today.