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27 Jan

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by CueNoLife

"You need to unlock Lunars, have a high Magic level, and a collection of Binding Necklaces. It's also click-intensive and causes players to lose GP rather than make it. These are all things we're taking into account when it comes to balancing."

I keep seeing misinformed players, and its apparent members at Jagex as well. You do NOT need a high magic level, nor lunars to do lavas/steams, unless you're an ironman, as the limited amount of talisman drop tables. I prefer if we don't introduce the new pouch, and instead make the minigame a profitable minigame, with little to NO XP. Make it on par with natures (20-25K/h). Natures with POH is ~32K(?). Also, as I did some reading, it appears that you are solving the talismans shortage with a reward shop offering the talismans that people would need to make combo runes.
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"causes players to lose GP rather than make it. "

Steam Runes exist, for a...

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I think the main point is that Lunars/Magic/Binding/Runners/Click intensive ness etc is what makes Lava RC offer the highest rates at maximum efficiency? I am aware that it’s possible to craft them without such requirements but the benchmark XP rates are based on players doing them at max effort. Which is why we wouldn’t want to offer a minigame that gives comparable XP rates to that method.

I understand the feedback about XP - it’s runecrafting after all - but if players generally dislike that method that’s another issue. It is obvious from the feedback on Reddit that you’d like it to become dead content. However that issue is outside the scope of this project and it’s probably better to take a look at it separately. The focus of the minigame is to offer an engaging and fun alternative runecrafting method

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by cdatack

tl;dr please do lava runes guys. edit: also mods ignoring all criticism

We don’t ignore your feedback but I understand why you feel that way. We have responded to feedback about the XP rates with the updated change log at the top of the blog, and we have just answered some feedback and questions on our official OSRS livestream today.

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by absolutely-ruined

/u/JagexLight what's with the obsession over lava runes? when you guys think of the best way to train a skill in OSRS, does it actually involve paying runners millions of GP while you just stand at an altar?

I don’t think it’s an obsession with lava runes honestly, however our design brief stated specifically that this project is not intended encroach on existing methods - one of those methods is lava RC.

I know that many players are so excited to see an update to RC and have it fix every issue that they have with it. We also feel there is a gap that can be filled with RC. There is a lack of fun and engaging gameplay for RC especially in the earlier levels.

We talked about this a bit on stream and I’d highly recommend checking it out - I’ll link you when it’s uploaded to YouTube.

But the jist of it is that making this project too rewarding could kill off any reason to use existing methods. As much as these methods might suck to you, and players think they’re trash because they are so sweaty, they are established by now and involve a lot of set up. From reading feedback it feels like players just don’t like the Lava method straight up and want to see it killed ...

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Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Indianaunderwood

Abyssal themed pet? We already have abyssal orphan! Literally an abyssal demon pet! I think maybe a transmog for the abyssal demon and/or rift guardian pet sounds way better to me?

It’s an Abyssal Creature from the rift so it should look different! We are also offering a transmog for the Great Guardian (for the existing RC Pet)

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Big-Egg-Boi

I'm really proud of this community with how well we (the players) understand the direction of which the game needs to go.

Please take our feedback seriously /u/JagexLight

I will always take your feedback seriously! I just can’t promise everything. I would highly recommend checking out the stream today that we just did and Husky’s answers regarding XP rates. Hear him out and then let me know what you think after!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Redoritang

The update seems great. I think most people don't care about making money through this mini game, but rather get great Xp for runecrafting which is very tedious to get...

I hear that and feel that. I feel like we addressed it in the blog and I’m hoping it makes sense. We are trying to deliver a more fun method of runecrafting that doesn’t encroach on existing methods. But it seems people want this minigame to solve every issue with runecrafting and be the go-to method for it, solving every single issue that players have with it. It’s supposed to be an additional method of runecrafting and not the only method. If we make it too rewarding then it will probably be the only method that players use…But I understand where everyone’s coming from!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by twizzler321

Can you make the mini game accessible to skilling accounts since it doesn't require any combat? It'd be great to have some new content for these type of account builds

It should be accessible to skilling accounts :3

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by coolykid

Whoever made the original outfit and the recolours, you have outdone yourself. This alone is enough to make me want to do this mini game! Amazing work!!!

That's Mod Jerv!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Uichi23

Hi, Mod Light, can you share a link to the livestream, please? I missed it but I'd love to watch it

Thanks

Sure, it's here - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1277776375

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by varyl123

Should? Or shouldn't??

Should not! Sorry that's my bad.

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by varyl123

Thanks Light!

So it didn't get asked on stream but the answer is that it should not* affect the diaries ^^

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Noksdoks

"Your chances of finding portal shards is increased by 10%" in the graph about what logs do what with the lantern

Ah! Sorry about that! I thought we mentioned it in the blog but we didn't. So portal shards are a separate mechanic in the blog, and will be only useable in the minigame

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by varyl123

Will the outfit for double runes affect any diaries?

Will the outfit for double runes affect any diaries?

I'll try to ask this on stream when we talk about the outfit. Mod Elena's initial reaction is that it shouldn't but it hasn't really been brought up until just now so might need to double check

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by lilbuffkitty

I appreciate your dedication to keeping a balance between different training methods with profit, intensity, and xp per hour. I would hate to see a new training method come out that makes older ones look like a waste of time.

Yeah I get this vibe from the devs that was the aim of the project :) Of course we will always be reviewing player feedback and making sure if feels worth your time and effort.

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by BoogieTheHedgehog

What are the rewards going to be priced at and what kind of points/hr is expected? Would be cool to gauge how long each reward would take to obtain.

Also I'm loving this level of interaction and feedback in the comments, is this going to be a new standard or is it something you're just trying out?

I asked Mod Elena this just now. We don't know exactly how many hours it will take to grind the rewards, because it hasn't been developed yet but it was something I wanted to give a ballpark estimate in the blog. However she said we will be looking at existing minigames for inspiration on this

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Warbags

The set bonus effect makes no sense with its current wording

Each piece has a 10% bonus chance to craft additional Runes, going up to a total of 60% when all pieces are worn.

Without knowing what the bonus is. We can derive no meaning from it.

It's a 10% each bonus but you get 60% as a set effect when all are worn - so 20% extra for wearing them all. Sorry about the wording!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by c0cktimus-prim3

There’s already an abyssal creature pet, it comes from sire

This one would be more themed around the abyssal ones coming through the rift! I wish we could share some concept work with you but we don't have it to hand.

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by lexprofile

Great update. I’m glad Jagex has their heads on straight regarding the xp rates. The focus of this mini game should be making it enjoyable, providing more milestones in a skill that has few, and making the 1-77 grind less grueling for players that enjoy a more active play style.

Thank you for your feedback!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by Gael_L

I'm quite happy with how this is developping. I'm easily satisfied, so the ~40k Runecrafting xp I'm getting at the Ourania Altar feels satisfactory, so seeing something that provides even more than that will be quite cool. I'll most definitely give this minigame a try when it releases, as I'm confident it's going to pass the poll !

I also approve of the idea of a "Great Guardian" transmog for the existing Rift Guardian pet.

Thank you for your feedback!!

Guardians of the Rift V2 *Updated Following Your Feedback*

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Originally posted by WastingEXP

Done a bang up job on acting on the feedback. nice to see the teleport locations of the ring addressed.

I do wonder what "well worth your while means" Ironman want this to combat shop scape, and I wonder how close it'll get.

Thank you! I appreciate it.