PhreakRiot

"Personally, this seems to indicate to me that the Yuumi changes were not successful at all. Wasn't the entire point to have her be playable for casuals without being too strong in pro?"

It's worth clarifying that Yuumi had a 45% solo queue win rate and like 80% presence at Worlds last year. Getting both of those to move in the correct direction is a success. She's currently 50% win rate in solo queue and trending toward ~85% presence in pro.

So if she winds up 47% and 2%, that's a marked improvement from 12.18. A partial success is better than nothing at all.

Kraken Guinsoo no longer interact as of 13.11. You just get one stack per auto and it fires every third auto, the same as 13.9

It went unmentioned in 13.11. I set the ticket to fixed with an explanation for 13.12. I guess it didn't get picked up in the patch notes.

They're dominant and yet only pro players use it. I mean I was really overt about it. IDK how that's a cop out.

I wouldn't mind Overheal being dominant (for example Conqueror clearly is for many fighters) if it achieved the goals we wanted.

Define "good." Do you mean OP? Because the context of the game seems to indicate you mean "OP."

Samira rushes Collector. Lucian and co. can go things like Essence Reaver in addition to the other options.

There are like 6+ good starting items for marksmen, depending on your pick. It's one of the most open systems right now.

It was an oversight (mistake) when shipping 13.10. We were aware of it pretty much immediately.

I ultimately got to make the call, "Yeah, we're keeping it this way."

I have no idea how many skins people buy. I do like when champions that people like playing are viable, though. No one from PIE (aka skins team) has ever mentioned champion buffs to me.

If Volibear support suddenly took up 30% of his play rate I'd also look into whether a) we're comfortable with the playstyle and b) if it needs buffs or nerfs.

Shiv plus some amount of AP is incredibly satisfying tho

THIS MAN MADE CHEM TERRAIN (both of them) GET HIM!!!!!

OMG is that legendary Viper main Altombre in my subreddit?

Also worth noting that Yuumi’s matchup tables are pretty enchanter favored. She has historically only shown up in pro play when it was already enchanter heavy. I’ve never seen Yuumi drive the pro meta, only respond to it.

Senna is tuned around laning with marksmen, where it’s hard to get full value out of her kit. As soon as you change either the damage type or range she becomes much stronger.

Basically once Nilah goes in, Senna Q and R do double duty. Plus the MS isn’t bad either.

The initial goal for pro balance at MSI was roughly 2/3rd melee supports, 1/3 ranged.

Using MSI picks, we had:

• 32 Rakan
• 32 Lulu
• 15 Thresh
• 10 Braum
• 9 Nami
• 8 Nautilus
• 8 Tahm Kench
• 7 Leona
• 6 Blitzcrank
• 5 Annie

The list goes on with other 1-4 pick champions but the sum total result was 97 melee, 55 ranged. So we ended up hitting that pretty well. Of course, the refrain was that we were in an Aphelios Jinx meta, which was accurate in terms of picks. But it's funny that we really weren't in an enchanter meta, we were in a melee heavy one, and people still played largely immobile long range DPS marksmen.

Of course right now Milio and Yuumi are eating up a lot of pro presence so we're much more heavily ranged.

I'm pretty confident we can get enchanters into a spot where they're completely reasonable in solo queue for most players while returning to a 2:1 sup...

You do realize there are already nerfs in the 13.12 patch yeah?

Like I understand it’s really popular to hate on me right now but your literal quote is “what your eyes are seeing is actually wrong” and then you commit that exact action by pretending that we aren’t nerfing her via the incredibly accessible public patch plan.

Yeah it’s 100% influencer driven.

Totally agree.

Yeah it'll be funny if people pin it as "marksmen OP LUL" because he's building strictly mage items and his kit hasn't been touched in a long time.

Also it's probably OP and AP Varus probably needs his damage profile changed.

Keep in mind, "enchanter meta" is sort of weird phrasing here. We still see a decent amount of Rakan, Nautilus, and other engage champions. Also, Rell isn't even bad into enchanters. Her engage reliability is a lot better now that it's not tied to Mount Up. At a certain point Milio can't beat Hexflash + E + Q + W without both champions playing entirely off the wave.

I was so sure Nilah Senna was going to be the lane of Worlds last year. It's still cracked right now. Nilah Taric is also incredible.

I see other people talking about Rell. Generally pro players do not have enough time to investigate every possible champion. I think they could probably do better but it's hard to figure out every possibility.

Here's a random one: AP Varus Top just 10x'd its pick rate in Korea last week (It's in like 5% of all games last I checked) and it's starting to spill over into other servers now. His build didn't change. It's all the same items (Nashor's Riftmaker Zhonya's/Banshee's) but just out of nowhere it's a thing now. We may even see it in pro. But it's just been there waiting for a year+

Next you'll tell me the PCS is stronger than the LEC, yeah?