Just because she wasn't THE promised monster champ doesn't mean she isn't A monster champ.
Please look at her and tell me with a straight face that the manta ray with a fake head made to give pray a false sense of familiarity isn't a monster.
Right that was my point. I was saying she wasn't the promised monster champ, even though I think the end result of Bel'Veth is a monster champ (Even if she didnt start that way)
I feel like we're missing a male enchanter. I remember the video teasing Renata where Riot showed all enchanters and said "What is missing?", and while the answer was a dark "evil" champion, what a lot of people thought was, well, men, especially cause Taric being an enchater is... Debatable.
Besides that, I also think more "pretty boy" champions are missing. Not just any attractive guy, but some more twink-ish Ezreal/Aphelios types. So basically, a pretty enchanter boy would definetely appeal to a certain demographic.
And to sort of go off-topic, I know we just got Graves/TF and I don't wanna sound greedy but there's still not that much MLM (gay/bi men) characters. Sorry at this point I'm basically requesting a champ, but really one that filled at least two of these qualities would be great lol.
I agree with all of the points above. Renata actually started out as a male enchanter. We pivoted to female because we wanted to distance the Champion from Silco more. A Male Enchanter is still very high on out to do list. Agree we also need more MLM champions then just Graves/TF as well
With the way the article is worded, does this mean you're now league's lead gameplay producer instead of just the champion product lead
yes, that's exactly what it means
I have nothing to add to the discussion but just wanna say I super love and appreciate what you guys have been doing in that direction with precisely those two additions!
E: also this is totally a pipe dream but have there been any ideas floating about with a more modern magical girl, precure, fisticuffs type of appeal?
We haven't discussed that, but it's certainly a interesting idea
Hey mr. Reav3, but have you considered to add a darkin tank support male or female, who cares. Just a darkin tank support?
Darkin is a place we really want to explore more in the future. Support and mid are the 2 places that don't have a Darkin yet. A Darkin support of some sort does sound sweet though, not sure what class it would be though
Hello fellow Lady Voidimitrescu enjoyers, I had the chance to send some q's over to Reav3 about our new Empress. I'm super grateful (as always) for the responses, especially seeing how busy he and the rest of the team are.
Here Reav3 explains a little more about the team's design goals for Bel'Veth, her design iterations, and addresses some of the concerns we've seen pop up in the community re: the perceived disconnect between the fantasy sold in her cinematic and more beat 'em up playstyle, as well as mobility creep.
No worries, sorry If I couldn't get to all the questions. I had over a 100 between a bunch of different websites. So many of you were super interested in BelVeth! I don't blame you though, she's a pretty unique Champion
Yes and you can see it on the concept artists, Larry "BravoRay" Rays Artstation
Have you considered doing the opposite? Adding a manly botlane ADC or enchanter support to diversify these classes?
yes, of course.
Do you think that's because there are more of the champs that appeal to female players in those roles, or because of how the roles themselves play?
Not sure, and I don't think their is any one reason. I don't think broad generalizations of people are that helpful. I think their are probably many different reasons why people make decisions on things like this.
What is the data on female monster champs. Once again just confirmation that it's just neckbeards circlejerking about monster champs
We unfortunately don't have many female monster champs, Rek'Sai being one of the only ones and it's not clear Rek'Sai is female unless you read the lore. It will be interesting to see how Bel'Veth does
i think a huge part is the fact that top and jungle are composed of melee fighters and tanks. sure, you have the occasional irelia or gwen, but apart from that it's all sweaty old dudes and fat monster champs. that's one of the reasons i main adc lol (i'm a guy tho).
i think if there were beginner friendly melees like garen, jax, warwick, master yi, ... as female version (as in cute girls, not illaoi), those roles could be much more popular.
For sure and we are aware those roles are lacking more feminine champions. Both Gwen and Lillia were attempts to add some more diversity to the types of Champions in Top/Jungle
This is so dumb. You don't need to cater to the female audience at all. What percentage of your total player base is female anyway? 10%? 5%? 1%?
Great! You've over hit your target anyway. Make some male champs for the rest of us. Give us some masculine male enchanters. You had a really cool concept for Renata, and a perfect opportunity to give us a different, masculine take on an enchanter, and defaulted to another female (we haven't had a male support since pyke in season 8).
I think all of this is an excuse for an entire lack of creativity.
To be clear I never said we were catering to anyone. The question I was answering was someone saying we were ignoring half the player base by making slightly more female champs. I had said the reason we are making slightly more female champs is because right now we have less female champs then male champs on the roster. We believe long term its better for the roster to have a more even split between male and female champs. I was just saying that we wouldn't be ignoring male players by making female champions anyway, since most male players don't care about the champion gender.
I remember when I first read a similar statistic and thought that it cant be true. Checked my most played champs and was surprised to find out that I have the tendency aswell.
But Id say most females play botlane and a huge amount of bot lane champs are female. That the newer addiotions are all female probably isnt a coincidence. Kaisa, Senna, Samira, Rell, Seraphine, Zeri...
Actually female players tend to play ADC, Support and Midlane roughly the same amount. Jungle and top are the roles that have very few female players queueing for. It correlates strongly with data we have that shows that female players heavily prefer to play ranged champions rather then melee champions
In the past riot said that they want to make more champions that we already knows, like Kai'sa or Yone. Is it still true?
You mean from the lore? Yes we always look out for good opportunities to bring champs from the lore into SR as Champions if it makes sense,
Hey Reav3! Is it possible we could get a more feminine male champion in the future? I feel like that’s a part of the gender spectrum that’s lacking representation in LoL (and in a lot of games in general)
yeah its something we really want to do on Champs team as well.
Would you know who are the most popular male champs for female players, I vaguely recall august saying it was jhin or teemo
Here is a word cloud from 2017 that illustrates this more. The survey asked players what their favorite champions were. Left is male players and right is female players
Would you know who are the most popular male champs for female players, I vaguely recall august saying it was jhin or teemo
Yeah, Teemo/Jhin/Veigar/Rakan are at the top, with Teemo being far ahead of Jhin/Veigar/Rakan
So you just abandon half of your player base? If you want balance you could release 1 male 1 female. You could also add a female option for previous male champs like a skin or something.
We aren't abandoning half our playerbase by making more female Champions. Our data shows that female players primarily play female champions, in fact its something like 97% of female players only play female champions. Male players are evenly spilt between male and female champions, so Male players play 50/50 between male and female champions, If anything whenever we make a male champion we are abandoning most of our female players, since most of our female players won't play male champions at all.
Is there any chance for a female darkin in the future or atleast A DARKIN?!
Their is always a chance
Is there any chance for a female assassin in the future or in general another ap assassin?
I dont see why not
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