Dauntless Dev Tracker

Originally posted by srcoo

So just so i get this right, you buffed pangar lantern from 960 dmg -> 3000 dmg. With a cool down of 30 secs that means you assume we only use our lantern once every 10 seconds since "Our goal is to land in the same DPS range as the live game right now."

Does this look like once every 10 seconds to you? https://youtu.be/1QHYMAdj8ek

I dont see how this is anything besides a huge nerf.

Originally posted by JapanPhoenix

Honestly the Past/Future paths would be a good base for making two more Omni-Cells so we have 6 choices instead of just 4.

The Future path is basically halfway to being a Cascade+ Omni-Cell already (since Molten/Cascade skittles look similar).

Originally posted by OoRicky92oO

Pretty much agree with everything. I still think they need to adjust the weapons base attack speed so that they feel good and delete the ability to modify it with cells. As for cascade i think it should go as a cell and become a skill for a "pet" like the drone. I'd really love to see the drone become a permanent pet which you can customize appearance wise and skill wise (like choosing between a support type that spawns buffs or a dps type like eidolons in escalations that damages behemoths)

Originally posted by Serrishtar

My first post, other replies to your first reply and a dozen other posts in this thread state very clearly what's bothering us about omnicells. Your process of selectively interpreting feedback to fit the narrative in your head is exactly what got us to where we are now. Do you have no cost-benefit analysis process? What are you hoping to get out of this semi-redesign if it isn't control over how people play?

Originally posted by professorlitwick

Initial thoughts: This is a lot of changes that make it difficult for me to actually plan out a build. It seems as though your intention was that Omnicells were meant to encourage build versatility and variety, but now it just feels like i need to design a build solely to work off of my omnicell, which very much limits playstyle. Also, all of the separate nerfs to attack speed makes everything feel very sluggish, even on faster hitting weapons.
Ultimately I like the concept but as of right now they don't feel as fun to me.

Originally posted by TH3-COSMIC-OWL

This is just my initial thoughts and looking back it feels as restricted as before and regarding to what makes my builds feel worse it's not the omnicells it's the nerf to cells, now we need to jump through hoops to get a worse output. I'm fine with nerfing certain cells but some of the conditions are a little silly. I cant even log in now as the experimental version is crashing on start up tried for the past 10 mins nothing

Originally posted by Serrishtar

I'm not the one who has to explain himself, you are. I have nothing much to add until you shed some much needed light on your thought process. People are starving for content and you're busy reinventing the wheel of every game system in a way that adds nothing or makes it worse. When you write something like "Omnicells should encourage new builds" when the way you're encouraging new builds is by making old builds impossible, are you aware of what you're doing? What's stopping you from just adding new cells and nerfing overperformers? Why are you busying yourself with redesigning the wallpaper when your house is missing basic furniture? For example, I've done hundreds of low level, speed and challenge runs on games like Dark Souls. I would never dream of regularly playing a high risk, high reward build in Dauntless because this game is grindy and repetitive, and games like this demand consistency above all else, which I can't have if your game is full of broken hitboxes, bad (or non...

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Originally posted by Open_Marzipan_455

It's simple. Omnicells seem to become a building defining primary perk, while the perks from cells now only support that primary perk instead so it removed the feeling of coming up with a own build. Instead it now feels like we're given the choice of premade perks and we gotta make the best out of that coice instead of inventing own combinations.

Originally posted by ironswiftman14

Personally I don’t care for lantern holds I only care about the the taps and completely removing I think isn’t going to go well

Originally posted by Darthplagueis13

I feel like one issue with Stamina is that the attacks that actually cost stamina often don't feel all that rewarding compared to the other basic combos. Like, CB chain swings, or the repeated strikes combo with the axe.

I agree with the OP that there should be some kind of method of directly restoring stamina in combat because sometimes you find yourself low and are struggling to get back up because the Behemoth is just being spammy so you kind of just stumble from one dodge into the next which doesn't feel great.

Originally posted by recc113

I tried out bastion a little, just putting it in my full life crit chainblades build that I use to hard carry all escalations currently and it felt terrible. Mostly the tap ability eating all my shields felt really bad. I've been playing since closed beta and I have muscle memory for hitting the tap quite often and trying to keep the hold up as much as possible, so i found myself just instinctually tapping and eating all my shields.

Honestly I'd rather no tap over a tap that eats all my shields, but maybe that's just not how I'm meant to run a full life build. I was kind of hoping bonded skarn full life crit would have been the way to go with the shield spamming omnicell. I get wanting to spend shields for damage tho, maybe my mindset is just backwards using the shields mostly to be super tank and infinite crit.

Mobility looked like it could be interesting after the rework of mobility cells I read about somewhere here; until then I'm not really interested in it.

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Originally posted by kdr-

The 30 sec cooldown to lantern hold will be a massive nerf. Not just for the lantern effect, but for cells like cascade too.

I get you're trying to balance builds but the game is already difficult as is while navigating bugs. These nerfs will just push players away.

I'd rather other builds were buffed over nerfing half life builds for instance.

Maybe buff these omnicells a bit more to make up for the lost dps.

Originally posted by Scarbrine69

Not yet, but if you look at the roadmap, it says repeaters are gonna be refreshed next and this is one of the changes. I'm so happy.

Originally posted by Scarbrine69

Not yet, but if you look at the roadmap, it says repeaters are gonna be refreshed next and this is one of the changes. I'm so happy.

Originally posted by TH3-COSMIC-OWL

Initial thoughts. My builds feel more pigeonholed than before which is not a good thing. what I see is we have taken discipline or ice borne out of our builds and put them in a new spot. I would like to comment on the obvious nerf the the current best cells (which I like) but why was the number not just reduced, now we need to jump through more hoops to get a worse feeling build than before

Originally posted by Serrishtar

What is the benefit of Omnicells to the players? The system is essentially the same but less flexible. Why go from fluid mixing and matching to rigid "choose one playstyle as defined by us" design when you could've just made new regular cells to add to the pool? It just seems like your decisions are centered around streamlining the game to the point where you hold all the power to force players into pre-defined playstyles approved by the devs. No one asked for this. If your idea of making balancing easier for yourself is to remove nuance from the game, you've gotten lost in your own game designer world where the notion of "elegant solutions" comes at the expense of players.