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Your opinion is insofar very interesting that you put the point of "being a worker bee" and how to make that fun up for debate - while the general results of all our data survey is that nearly noone wants to actually be such worker bee. (And why would you, isn't that what most of us are already in real life?) Something that plays into the problem of competetiveness and the inability to do that compared to others in a game that ultimately is about global collaboration. I'm honestly not sure that new player audiences would be more willing to take that part.

Is there any specific things that you would imagine to make that more fun? Like, just any quickshot example that can make clear in which direction you are imagining exactly?

The term "industry standard" is well known to apply to anything that has received widespread adoption - I'd assign that term much more for nowadays common marketplaces compared to lootboxes, at least for the western market.

And the term "support" does very well fit the idea of the marketplace. It has been openly communicated that the income it generates is to be used for sustaining and expanding the development resources available to Eco. A purchase hence supports the development of the game - and other people that do vital things for the community, like server admins and modders.

Which is not any different to how Eco came to exist as what it is now to begin with - if people hadn't purchased different tiers (Wolf Whisperer for example including cosmetic items not available otherwise) in Kickstarter the game wouldn't exist today but development would have stopped after it's prototype for educational use was finished and the project done. I think those people are supp...

Generally introducing more "meta" ways to play the game - for example with a trucker / trader / politician, etc. profession doubling down on what is already happening - is something we want to do. More immersiveness, which is what I understood in your feedback, in professions is something we have been debating (though not to a TerraFirmaCraft degree), but there is the question how big the interest in that would actually be, especially as some interactions are already widely considered tedious and tons of people seem to not be fans of such mechanics.

In general we also want to provide a bit diversity in professions between such that are more focused on manual labour and others that are much less and hence also have different time investment suitabilities for players.

I'd actually suggest you to make a suggestion for changes to immersiveness on ...

Glad you are having fun, hope you will like the future of them as well, we're not yet done with them. :)

All good, it was just unfortunate as it would suggest I argued that others do it and so can we - but that wasn't what I intended at all, I just found that the statement as argument against couldn't stand uncorrected. Conan Exiles for example does not only have a store with coins, but a battle pass and DLC's on top.

I cannot change though that the Marketplace after lots of consideration turned out to be what we found to be the best option for the goals we had nor that it is a de facto industry standard nowadays. And I can very well understand that some players would rather not have that be the case, but in the end it is a business focused decision that comes with opportunities and risks - we hope the opportunites it provides allow us to expand and speed up what everyone wants, the development of the main game.

As per your FAQ the only new option for us to increase our resources would hence be making the game pay-to-play, despite it is today industry standard to offer additional cosmetic purchases to enable long-term players to optionally support the development of a game that they have often spent multiple hundred hours in and had enough fun with it that they often are willing to support? I doubt that would have been popular, nor that there is a way to legally do that in all jurisdictions to begin with when not implemented from the beginning. It likely would be the instant death for the game. I doubt that would have worked as something to start out with either, as what we are making isn't an MMO. In any case for us it is out of question and was never up for consideration to do that.

So the remaining realistic options are to go with the industry standard and give it a unique Eco touch in the form of using it to also give back to the very community that supports us or just direct d...

I'm not sure what you consider to be a "giant" game company - the amount of programmers currently working on Eco is 9 (including CEO and CTO with administrative duties), not all of these are full time and some of these also care for production and the development infrastructure. (Backend services, Jenkins, Deploy, Automatic Testing, Builds and the likes)

None of the objects in the marketplace were planned to otherwise ever make it to Eco - the contents will most often focus around specific themed objects.

The game hasn't been actively catering to the educational market since it went on Steam, it was developed further into an entertainment game.

Features like NPC's and violent PvP are often requested by potential new players but not what the game is about or we envision it to be, both go directly against its idea - but they both would be things we could indeed do to attract large new player audiences - but the majority of current players that play the game for what it currently is probably wouldn't like it becoming a singleplayer game with NPC's nor a "I don't debate with you about a problem, I'm just going to shoot you" type of game. I noted multiple times that we'd prefer to keep the focus on what Eco is about instead of changing the focus towards things that are simply more popular and interesting for nowadays audiences - that is a key aspect in seeking an additional way for funding that current players can participate in.

As for tasks, we might have a feature in t...

It was you, the players, that asked for boats. There was no day where not at least a single person asked in Discord about boats. Boats were on the old voting page second after trains - and the option that made more sense to implement in the sense of a cost and outcome calculation, as boats are much better to integrate into current Eco workings than trains that were specifically intended for large scale transportation that most players currently don't have any need for. Boats have always been one of the most requested features in the game through all our data surveys, I'm baffled about the question "Who wanted that?" - the answer is nearly everyone.

As for the UI, I agree. Though much of the information you noted can be figured out via the tooltip system, but that is too hard to use. We are working on multiple improvements for UI's.

The summary isn't taking context right - my statement on Conan Exiles and Astroneer was made solely in response to a player that claimed that absolutely no game where you need to host your own servers would have a marketplace, which is obviously factually wrong.

We did envison a situation where not everyone is happy with it and still went with it, as we think it is the best way to do it. All that has been considered before making the decision.

No blame was put on server owners in any capacity.

On the matter of cosmetics in a microtransaction store we'll simply need to disagree, there is no way how I ever could convince someone of that being okay and I don't need to - this is an offer to those that do think alike and noone is forced to pay a single penny.

Trading cosmetic materials and objects from the marketplace in stores and contracts is by default disabled, same for being able to build with or place them when you don't own them. Admins can optionally enable it on their own servers at their discretion.

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Maybe this helps.

Good to know.

Nice job, might want to put that somewhere on the wiki when it's final, so it's easier to find.

Yes, three options:

1. You get claim stakes and papers from a town, country or federation to use within it.
2. You get homestead support papers from a town, country or federation to use outside of them.
3. If you're playing a local game, you can set the difficulty to the default recommended "No Collaboration" and will receive claim stakes (usable outside of settlements) and claim papers (usable in- and outside of settlements) when reading skill scrolls, like in Update 9.

Make sure to install the latest VC++ Redistributables: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2015-2017-2019-and-2022

If that doesn't help, reach out to [email protected].

Unfortunately not, as those two systems are very different and could require massive maintenance amount to keep both working over longer timeframes - for a system that is not used by any notable amount of players anymore and is simply outdated, as Eco has developed further. As such it became legacy and once problems with it appear, those simply might no longer be addressed when that wouldn't make any sense resource wise and the system removed when the issues become too much or the old system inhibits ability to develop other things.

Options always increase complexity in development and tax development and qa resources, hence decisions for settings need to take into account the debt created through these. We'd always rather use our resources for development of our roadmap than trying to figure out why something doesn't work in a discontinued old system that barely anyone uses and noone in the team actively works with anymore.

In the end this is not just a small setti...

The options that config variable takes are:

• None — No logging and no notification is given.
• LogFile — Log to file.
• LogFileAndNotifyAdmins — Log to file and notifies the all admins connected to the server.
• LogFileAndNotifyEveryone — Log to file and notifies the all users connected to the server.

Due to it being a legacy system, it may be removed at any time for good. If that happens, any saves that use it will no longer function and also cannot be migrated to the new system, as it's an either or choice determined when the world is generated.

This setting is legacy and should not be used anymore.