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03 May

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Originally posted by TremblesWithBeer

The one with water in the middle or without?

The version with the ruins objectives in the middle. And Borderlands Bloodlust.


29 Apr

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Originally posted by smitske

Any reason there is no automated testing for UI things? I mean sure not everything can be tested automatically but there do seem to be some alternatives, you can use stuff like Selenium to do certain actions without depending on the graphical place of objects and use stories tondo it easily even as a non programmer. Setting it up though does take quite some time and messing around with the UI, the stories can also only be used if in the background the used keywords are defined.

Yeah there are several reasons. Selenium is a cool framework for some situations, but if you've ever used it, you know how much of a terror it, and its associated services/drivers, are to maintain.

Our UI layer is also not a standard framework you pull off a shelf, and it's implemented as multiple frameworks that support different interaction paradigms.

UI automation is also more like a 'last resort' for when your development team builds things so poorly that nothing else works. Proper implementation of MVC/MVVM patterns allow for test injection just below the view layer, meaning automation doesn't need to care about how it looks (which it can't possibly validate anyways).

That said, Gw2 was instrumented for test automation after the game released. While we are driving most of the game just under the UI with our automation, there's still some older UI that owns business logic that it shouldn't.

Rather than working around those decisions...

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Originally posted by smitske

So no shorts allowed? YOU MONSTER!

You can wear whatever you like once you're hired as long as you follow the 2 dress code rules:

  • don't be offensive
  • don't be stinky
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Originally posted by smitske

Wel technically it can but its a pain sometimes and does require you to build a lot around it, also many of the technologies arent completely on point yet. That being said I do not know for example how easy it would be to adapt certain things to gw2. But I take it your team doesnt actually do testing by writing test code for example, but rather that is done by another team?

Yep. My team is the black box team, we have another team that does test scripts and code. Both teams work together pretty closely.

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Originally posted by Kalamestari

In Path of Exile you can assign your MTX minis to your hideout. It'd be nice to see something like that in GW2.

YES!

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Originally posted by AlliedKhajiit

No kidding. I'd imagine all the downvotes are from anonymous players who want to keep it hidden so they actually CAN sell their tiger cubs

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Originally posted by Zaybiel

Hypothetical question. Let's say I was a tester and had 2 zodiac skins I was keeping with the intent to sell later to make money. What would have been expected of me in regard to those 2 skins upon learning that they were going to drop from black lion chests?

What Lauren said. Also, there are multitudes of logs. It's pretty easy to tell how and when someone is storing something for later and if its for a nefarious purpose by checking the timestamps. ;)

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Originally posted by Zaybiel

Hypothetical question. Let's say I was a tester and had 2 zodiac skins I was keeping with the intent to sell later to make money. What would have been expected of me in regard to those 2 skins upon learning that they were going to drop from black lion chests?

If you are playing the market with the intent to make 1000s or 10000s of gold that would be frowned on. It would be a case by case basis, but it wouldn't hurt for you to ask your lead what could get you into trouble. Usually asking absolves all guilt.

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Originally posted by smitske

Any reason there is no automated testing for UI things? I mean sure not everything can be tested automatically but there do seem to be some alternatives, you can use stuff like Selenium to do certain actions without depending on the graphical place of objects and use stories tondo it easily even as a non programmer. Setting it up though does take quite some time and messing around with the UI, the stories can also only be used if in the background the used keywords are defined.

The why's would be a better question for our engineers and QA Engineers, however I accept that UI can't be hooked into and automated and roll with it. :)

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Originally posted by Merus

I don't know if your third party contractor is as good as you seem to think. (about halfway down)

Also well worth a read for everyone else, in case you were wondering why QA seemed to take a big dip a while back, and also if you think that the games industry might be a fun place to work.

We outsourced because we no longer wanted to take breaks in contract employment, it was causing a drain on our department. We also didn't have enough space. Yes we could have gone with the India solution or the cattle call show up at 8am and see if you have a job solution where I would have no idea if the people testing GW2 had been trained to test GW2. There are many options in the industry and I am happy with the one I have. Could it be better in many ways in regards to how testers are treated and feel? Absolutely.

I don't deny that QA testing is the low rung on the totem pole, the pay is bad and the hours are also bad. I hated working 80 hour weeks when I did them. I didn't like being called in on a weekend when I hadn't had a day off in over a month. I currently don't enjoy being on call every night and weekend but this is my job.

A lot of people think it's QA's fault when the game takes a dip or there's a bug. QA has little to say in the development process. ...

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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Sure!

Depending on where you live, getting into QA testing can be really easy or really hard. Getting into a studio with zero experience is much harder than joining an outsource group.

Finding the Job(s)

  • Know your area - check http://www.gamedevmap.com/ for studios in your area

  • Know the big outsourcers and where their centers are - this would include places like VMC, Babel Media, Mobius, Experis, Pole To Win, and a horde of other places. Sometimes it can be e...

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28 Apr

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Originally posted by Eastcorn

How can Duncan be real if the icons aren't real?

I'm having an existential crisis right now.

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Originally posted by garull

Make this page https://feedback.guildwars2.com/en mobile friendly :(

If this gets enough interaction/attention and is a useful tool going forward, we will. Wasn't time to get it done before today :(

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Originally posted by rediche

Any possibility for you looking into visibility of commander tags for colorblind people with the QoL at some point? This would mean the world to a lot of us who barely see the tags already.

Both options are open for suggestions from the community! So feel free to add to the discussion in the poll thread here . If QOL improvements win this poll, it will be up to the community to decide what we prioritize in a follow-up poll.

The other thing to keep in mind is that even if an option doesn't "win" the poll now, the option isn't gone forever. It can totally come back as an option in the future, especially if its something that is mentioned frequently in the community!


26 Apr

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Originally posted by Syviren

The last elder dragon has been revealed! John Smith with his champion Evon Gnashblade, he will emerge from the shadows, the black lion company, his puppet all along. For years he fiddled with the hidden drop rates, tugging at the invisible strings allowing players to grow strong enough to kill his counterparts. One by one, his dragon kin fall, and slowly, almost unnoticeably, the economy slumps into nothingness. Rich players once roamed free, easily buying new skins to become even more fashionable. "FOOLS!" John roars "Such futile and worthless waste".

As they widdle away at the other dragons, soon money is hard to come by. The drops slowly vanish. Dungeon loot gets nerfed again, then fractals. One day all of tyria notices the inflation. There is nothing to sell, no money to be made. Soon, it is almost impossible to be even able to repair your armor.

That's when he will strike. That's when the world is weak.

"Crippled by its vanity, it shall fall" sneers J...

Prepare yourselves.

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Originally posted by RuBiK79

I was able to get it soon after this comment by finally getting into a new map instance, but I see you guys just fixed it in the patch. Thanks!

Awesome :)


25 Apr

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Originally posted by RuBiK79

Will this also work for the bugged entry 13? How big of a radius is "leave the event area"?

Leaving the event radius = Keep going until you don't see the event UI in the right-side of your screen anymore. :)