Ok so you don't know what a core item means. It doesn't mean you build it every game, it simply means they are very good items for your champion, that is more or less bought whenever you can build it.
No, core items are items that are built every time
as an Ezreal main how would you know?
Dear god... this is too much.
So I imagine you've already thought about this (you as in you and the team over at Riot) but why not try to buff the other two there (second wind and bone plating is it?) I mean, second wind is more or less ONLY useful in lanes where you are going to get poked a lot, like melee vs ranged in top or mid, and bone plating is the thing you take as all-in support or champs in bot. I mean, conditioning has always just seemed like the "I don't have anything better to choose and I can survive early game, so lets just take it for some better scaling" like in the jungle etc.
they are both fine runes
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I kind of knew this was coming since even after the Aphelios/Senna nerfs, and the changes in 10.5 Kai'Sa's winrate and pick rate have stayed around the same, but I'm starting to think that this is a really bad idea. I don't have the data you do /u/RiotAugust (at least, I'm pretty sure you're the one working on these right now), but I can still contribute my perspective.
Why is Kai'Sa at sub 47% winrate right now in Plat+, and why has she been like that the last few patches?
Indirect nerfs, botlane power creep, and a suboptimal meta. By this I mean a few things:
- Stormrazor nerfs, Rageblade nerfs (this was a while ago), and ranged champions being adjusted to do less damage to turret plates.
- The existence of Aphelios (who literally has a gun for every situation, 200 years) and Senna (w...
August's argument is that there are now multiple marksmen that can range abuse her in lane (Senna and Aphelios being two new ones, next to Cait). I think it's reasonable to give her a fair shake given that reality - even as we slowly nerf Senna and Aphelios down as players catch up to their mastery curves.
So... honest question here, they're nerfing Nocturne (Mid) and Garen, which I'm OK with, but why are assassins (recently at least) kind of immune to nerfs?
I know people in here preach that Katarina is "an actual trash Champion" but her stats are almost the same as Nocturne's but with higher Pickrate and even Banrate yet Nocturne is getting nerfed before her?
Are they still trying to cash on the recent Kat skin or what?
kat and talon were debated for nerf, but we decided not to as they were both just under the line. That may literally change by tomorrow as more data comes in.
edit: Since i'm not going to reply to everyone - I'm not sure why people think fizz diana kass or ekko are skirting the line. those champs all have winrates that range from at most ~52%, down to sub 49% and below (Diana jungle in plat+ is 46.6%) spread over elo and role. Usually around 50-51%.
What's with the conditioning rune being nerfed?
It stands clearly above all other runes in winrate
In 10.6 for example, its at 52% (the next closest runes are Approach Velocity at 51.3%, Guardian at 51.1%, and Glacial at 50.9%). Keep in mind further that two of those are keystones, and therefore are supposed to be more powerful and can influence winrate more with smaller tuning issues - so you can imagine how powerful conditioning must be. I expect we might need to go harder on it later.
That was fast, were you stalking this thread?
No I'm just lying awake in bed thinking about how I can't play league anymore because I have no champs left.
Also, for some reason I get notifications.
and u/Ovedius is probably crying over the mid Nocturne nerfs
a soul for a soul
Correct.
YOU LIED TO ME EARTH SLUG, PAJAMA COUNTS
You say lie I say hinted at yes with my question mark.
I can see riot be like. "There! Now leave us alone!"
We've arrived at the summit with the knowledge that the meme rock will once again roll down to ground level and we'll have to get to pushing it up again.
Memes, memes never change.
But imagine if she was sunbathing before the hug, so when she envelopes around you she's like a heated blanket.
That I can get behind!
you miss my point. I made an edit about it. A tank should be specialized in TANKING, not dealing damage. In NO circumstances a TANK should be able to 1v1 any other class. He should be able to survive it and if in lane to escape it or maybe win with help of turret. Otherwise remove the meaning of tank, bruiser etc
So you want tanks to be completely unviable in any role except support?
Gnar smells
Also, he's covered in mud
Mate the mud is for exfoliation. He just cares about his skin and yours.
That smell is love. And mud.
Okay Sylas may seem Rude but he just wants what's best for the people and has big muscles so he's got to be at least awkward.
BUT GNAR NOT BEING TOP TIER IS A SHAM.
HE'S SO CUDDLY AND SMALL! And sure in Mega Gnar he may look scary but I'm willing to bet money that if he likes you his mega Gnar hugs would be literally the best in all of Runeterra. A giant warm fuzzy grip.
Agreed. Gnar not being top tier here makes me doubt the efficacy of this list. OP, you’ve lost all credibility in the field of hug-rating.
Cassio could wrap around you like this, don't tell me that doesn't sound awesome.
Lol gotta say I imagined a cold reptilian kind of touch, even if she might be warm from the waist up. Snakes are cold blooded!
I think Udyr deserves to be higher, and Cassiopia and Orianna lower.
I couldn't find Urgot's tier for some reason?
Overall pretty accurate!
And on the flip side of things, people seem to not recognize that much when an (enchanter) support helps. Like with Brand/Zyra you can at least see a ton of damage, or with Thresh/Leona/Blitz/Naut it's hooks and CC.
I had a fight once where we turned a 3v4 and I saved my Kayn at least 3 total times as Janna, interrupting multiple dashes, knocking every single person up multiple times, as he and my ADC kited and killed them all. Kayn BMed the enemy team in chat.
My ADC (who I was in comms with) said to me "I don't even think he carried that fight." I was thinking "yeah, I think I did." Then he continued. "Like, I was kiting that shit so hard I'm pretty sure it was mostly me."
> My ADC (who I was in comms with) said to me "I don't even think he carried that fight." I was thinking "yeah, I think I did." Then he continued. "Like, I was kiting that sh*t so hard I'm pretty sure it was mostly me."
Oof. Why can't I upvote this comment more than once.
"If Jizuke can add Ryze to his champion pool" did Jatt even watch any of EU LCS for the past 2 years?
My bad on the phrasing there, mainly said that because he hadn’t played it at all this split.
He’s definitely had pop off games on it in the past. Idk in my head it would be like saying Doublelift should add Lucian. He’s obviously played it a ton in the past, but not recently. Shoulda just said “if he can add Ryze back into his champ pool”
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