If your team was not able to track who picked up the coins off the ground, isn't this implying that drop trades can not be tracked? Inability to track drop trading seems like a potential RWT issue.
I might be wrong but I think this wasn't a traditional drop that would show up on our systems the same way it would for a regular player drop, a player didn't drop it, the 'game' did. Not the best explanation, I am not the expert by a long shot but that is my rough understanding
Lol I don't think its fair to say people with wealth don't notice anything missing. Its probably the exact opposite. Most rich players can tell you what they paid for an item months ago.
Great post though and I appreciate the communication
OK fair comment - I'm far from rich on my choob so I did make a bit of an assumption there!
So maybe a silly question but were these people not able to pick up their own coins? Surely they noticed it didn’t go to their inventory, just trying to imagine the mental torture of having to stare at ~1b of your coins on the ground and do nothing. Lol.
I think they could have but just didn't realise they were on the floor and as they are all pretty rich anyway probably just didn't notice anything missing, or they did notice but didn't expect it to be on the ground so probably went into auto panic mode :)
There was nothing wrong with your original message lol
It was a bit vague and confrontational. The word "toxic" means quite a lot of things and I wasn't specific enough about what I meant.
Read moreYou barely answer questions that are framed in a respectful manner either. Whenever any kind of comment is being made, which sits badly with whatever decision you and your team decided on, it gets ignored and styled as "inflammatory".
There simply is no winning with developers like you:
- Either comments are rude, and you have reason not to answer
- Either comments are well mannered, but don't agree with your opinion, so they're inflammatory
What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Show that you have the moral highground because people either disagree with you or are rude? You've lost any kind of moral highground the moment you agreed to work in a company that disregards any respect for their playerbase by having extremely predatory monetization schemes. Heck, your company even abuses mental health as a way to appear caring for mental health, whilst (literally at the same time) introducing predatory lootbox practises and gambling mechan...
What exactly are you trying to achieve here?
Someone asked why we don't respond to threads like this. I was answering the question. I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but it doesn't make it any less true.
Ironically the bug report system in-game is very buggy. One mistake/typo and you have to start over again because going back to edit text doesn't necessarily go where you want. It's quite horrible to use, frankly.
If that can be passed over to be looked at, that'd be great! Bug report system has been bugged for years.
How ironic! I didn't know that so will flag - cheers
Nice, I've got similar issue with Duplicity soundtrack in Hero's Welcome quest - was not unlocked and therefore I cannot finish comp req.
Hey, can you reach out to me with your RSN please
The transparency in this post is really great - thanks for the update. However, this part I had a question about:
The second issue related to allegations of skull tricking in the Wilderness. We have tested this extensively using information from bug reports, social posts and lost item claims. Despite all the variables and scenarios that we have tried we have been unable to replicate any type of skull tricking.
I've not tested it myself (as a disclaimer) but it seemed to be mentioned a lot of times on Reddit that if player A used an aoe ability next to player B's familiar, player A would become "opted in" to pvp and skulled. Was this something that was tested internally and confirmed to not actually be happening (or perhaps not consistently replicated)?
Yup that was one of the things tested - but if anyone has specifics do email them to us
"but for full transparency, we can't be certain that other players didn't pick them up."
Random player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgqk6t9Be1Q
Well yep I think it is likely that that a small number of players got very lucky yesterday! They should probably buy a lottery ticket this week as well ;)
In general, would like to know how often you actually read that tipoff email. I have reported several (gamebreaking) bugs and players who were involved in rule breaking (bug/RWT), and nothing has ever been done to those things. Same bugs still in game, same rule breakers still wandering around.
I know I should not expect a response for my own reports, but just in general, would be nice to know how much do our reports help you guys.
It does get checked, it isn't the best route to submit bug reports ... that is better through the official route, the tip off email goes to the support team, bug reports go to QA
Thanks Mod Steve. For full clarification on another discussed thing yesterday, are we still getting skulled going into the abyss without a demonic skull, or is it safe now?
Not my area but I recall a convo that would be changed next week
edit: someone else already said this!
To be fair mate people are toxic here because you and your team are completely incapable of having conversations with the player base you claim to represent. There’s never dialogue. There’s never a “what would YOU as players want?” You think because you’re a developer you’re immune to the flaming and downvotes that every other normal human experiences here? Quite the opposite. People have expectations from you guys and in some of the most basic f**king areas of customer care you guys shit the bed constantly. Player support? Doesn’t exist. Conversations between players and devs about how to move the game forward? Nah, we get what the shareholders deem is acceptable in terms of profit generation. Polling, spotlighting player made QOL ideas, the list could go on. It would be so easy for this team to build some good will but you literally refuse to do it.
You think because you’re a developer you’re immune to the flaming and downvotes that every other normal human experiences here?
Not at all, which is exactly why most mods choose not to engage. The community is free to behave however it wants, and the mods as individual people are free to respond in whatever way they choose to do.
Responding to stuff like this only encourages more posts like this when players believe it's the only way to get a response.
How should we reach out then for some feedback?
It's not the question that's the problem, it's the framing of it. I've actually answered this question in some detail multiple times in the past, but responding to this thread only encourages further communication in the same style.
Hi everyone
I hope you're all enjoying your new adventures in the Wilderness following yesterday's game update!
I wanted to offer some clarification on a couple of themes that have been doing the rounds on socials in relation to a couple of issues that fell out of the game update.
The first was that in some situations a player who sells items whilst having max coins/close to it, would find that the coins that would exceed max cash were not returned and claiming coins whilst your inventory could not accept them would instead drop the coins to the floor without warning (ouch!).
This was quickly verified as a genuine bug and was hot fixed about four hours after the game update was launched. During the period that the bug was live there were six accounts that had fallen foul of this situation and in total 'dropped' just over 5 billion GP to the floor.
We have arranged for all the dropped coins to be returned to the six accounts. If you're worryi...
Read more External link →Thank you so much! Appreciate you and all the mods hard work.
Have you not yet done barb assault? Or is that a broken track too?
Hi Mod Ramen,
I know you've been swamped with release and work on Zamorak and ED4 (which has been loads of fun) but I was curious if there have been any developments? Music Maesto is my final task from comp cape
Working on this at the moment
Yes, they did a ton yesterday lol
I get the impression that jmods on the RS3 sub tend to stay away from "callouts", whereas OSRS jmods tend to post on anything, regardless of the drama.
This sub can be quite a hostile place for developers, who will often get a lot of unpleasant messages in response to anything they post. To be clear it's not usually about the complaint - like the question being asked here isn't an unreasonable one - it's usually about the framing and tone. Developers aren't paid to get on reddit and interact with the community, when we do so it's our choice to, and making it unpleasant to do so discourages us from choosing to spend our time doing so.
EDIT Have edited the comment to use less inflammatory wording - should probably practice what I preach.
I pm’d you on Reddit with a full description
I’ve replied, could you please send me another message with your in game name included
Ill PM you a detailed paragraph explanation of what I saw after work!
Hey, any info would be appreciated :)
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