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There's a big difference for me between "it was annoying, and we didn't change it, and it's still annoying" and "we changed it, and it's slightly more annoying now". In the former case I think "the update isn't about that" is a good reason to leave something alone to avoid scope creep, but once we've touched it that principle doesn't really apply anymore. In this case I believed we hadn't touched it, but it turned out we had.

Sorry I don't mean change it back to as before, I mean change it so the abyss neither skulls you nor requires you to be skulled.

I didn't realise that you now have to toggle PVP before entering the wilderness to access the abyss. (In dev it worked as before, skulling you when you enter). I've asked for this to be changed to remove the skull requirement from the abyss entirely (and not autoskull you as it used to). I doubt a change like this will qualify for hotfixing, but I'll talk to the developers about it tomorrow.

EDIT: clarity

Apologies, we believe this to be specific to entering the wildy via the lodestone, we’ll get a fix for this asap

Thanks so much for taking the time to report this. We've been able to quickly replicate this issue and it's already been hotfixed - looks like 6 people were impacted total thankfully.

If you were impacted, please use the Lost Items form and we should be able to sort you out: https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb/articles/209366569-Lost-Items

*Note: Player Support have a clear roster of the few that were affected. Please do not submit false claims as this will likely lead to significant suspensions.

Hey :)

Yeah, it has indeed been changed to 95 slayer

Hey :)

Known issue

Thanks, this is already known and logged

Sorry I should have been clearer. You need the full set on to fill and to use the essence, but you can "carry" the essence without the gloves equipped.

Honestly the update is a delicate balance of reducing or concentrating but not completely removing PVP. The demonic skull was intended to be, and makes sense to remain, a reward for PVP, it's just that it interacts with runecrafting in an especially notable way. I'd like to see a much more substantial improvement to runecrafting as it feels very outdated to me, but this wasn't a runecrafting update.

Given that nothing has actually changed mechanically, my expectation is that after the initial excitement of people trying to PVP things will return to how they were before, which doesn't alleviate the need for other changes but should mean the abyss remains basically as-is for now.

Yeah I have no objection to this. There are all sorts of ways to think about this problem.

In fairness, we're barely recieving the victims information too, they've gone radio silent! Caution still advised

Good idea :)

Hi! This is intended as far as we could take it. There were complications in your suggested method due to being able to opt out/in in unexpected locations, we’ll monitor how this plays :)

Fire giants can no longer be found in the wilderness. We have a job in to account for this for Mandrith's special slayer challenge and Erskine's slayer contracts.

The latter, we have not been able to confirm any reports of players being killed whilst opt-out

Aftershock is being investigated, I have gotten a report that it was a factor but it hasn't been reproducible yet.

AFAIK the essence you fill with isn't lost if you temporarily unequip the gloves.

Yeah there's definitely a bunch of possible reward spaces or tweaks that could be made here.

Not AFAICS.