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Corruptions / slaughter / tendies also wouldn't be affected by potion boost

Yeah would agree, depending on how/what the resolution is, i think the 'lost' damage from gconc could be better served somewhere else in mage if it keeps the same DPS for an overal rotation.

Personally I would lean towards removing it and adjusting the abilities that are heavily impacted by it, but maybe there is a better way?

This is the sorta thing we're looking at -find the best way to remove it with as little negative impact as possible.

Hey an earlier hotfix caused this. The team is working on a fix to resolve this asap. Apologies for the inconvienience

Necro will not receive it no. It was designed with that in mind. :)

Appreciate the reply! - will look to go through others soon too.

Part of the issue with adding it to the tooltip is that it's not exclusive to overloads but anything in game that can stat boost you. Which ends up being a whole lot that needs to dynamically state the boost depending on the how much it's boosting by. That and I struggle to find a way to actually explain the boost in simple terms. It is a nice idea though.

Interestingly in your list the basic bleeds aren't/weren't actually affected by the stat boost previously iirc

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Hello, I'm gonna jump in to try and give some clarity on this stoof.

Firstly - I wanna apologize for the lack of communication on my own behalf, it's been a manic couple of days with a whole lot going on behind the scenes. You'll start to see me and a few of the other devs coming to life now.

If there's anything I've missed in the thread feel free to let me know and I'll try to comment when I can.

Potion Stat Boost

TLDR: This one was short-sighted on my end.

Why we wanted to do it:

We don't feel Invisible buffs/debuffs are great for the game, nor are they good for players that don't already know about their effects.(On a more extreme case : You'd be surprised at how many returning players were getting confused/frustrated when attacking ghost trolls and missing because theyre wearing full melee gear, due to it just being a harsh invisible debuff)

I'd say it's the opposite - it's riskier using the live values because XP rates differ by such an incredibly large margin, and there's so many underlying issues to and methods to cheese the existing system.
When we first addressed XP we had a XP mod for necro of 35-70% ranging with level, however, this just cemented the idea that you had to go to very specific locations because the difference in XP between 2 mobs could differ so greatly.
Players would hit 99 in just a few hours as soon as they could hit a high-end method (I don't think anyone would agree that a new skill should be 'complete' so quickly. Part of what I think made archaeology so great was the real sense of progression and discovery, not turboing through. Had archaeology had a turbo method, players would've felt inclined to do so and ruined the experience)

We _couldve_ used a harsher XP mod, but this had caveats too - (we bring the 2m XP/Hr method down to e.g. 500k.) But now what was originally a 500...

I like there is a choice between the two, but hoping it won’t be like the current tank armor vs power armor dilemma where unless it has a significant effect like Cryptbloom or raids armor, then pretty much power armor in all situations is preferred.

There are more differences between core necro power/tank gear than other combat styles have currently.

Na, his stats don't change it's just a straight heal

The abby demon v dust question is an interesting one, and it goes to show why we restatted monsters in the early/mid game (and is something i want to continue doing)

E.g. Abyssal demons should likely have more HP than they do being such a high-level mob - but being a commonly killed monster would mean they also need drop table adjustments to make up for more HP as you stated.

I don't personally think the existence of a slayer Req on a monster should instantly boost its XP values, because it tends to have benefits (e.g. unique drops / being able to gain slayer XP at the same time)

That being said post-launch, I may look into adding XP mods to some monsters (things that come to mind are things like mammoths that force you into 1v1, or are slightly more awkward to AoE etc.) To make up for the changes (though, they weren't remotely competing with something like abyssal lords previously, they could be in a better spot.)

Essentially the combat XP s...

yea

IIRC you can do as many of each as you want concurrently

That was a bug - the wiki team have been informed and I believe they're updating it.

IIRC arch glacor's base stats update with enrage which would mean the XP would also go up, yeah.

1 - I believe so as it's not style specific
2 - Yes
3 - You can but would probably be better off autoing in non-legacy

Is it possible to clarify what counts as a "non-offensive" ability? Are reflect and revenge disqualified?

IIRC they work - will check with Mod Ryan when he's back, as they reduce incoming damage.

EDIT: misread revenge as debilitate (it's late for me) - revenge won't work as it's purely offensive

They won't work as mentioned in the blog post :)

This is exactly the sort of thing we were trying to fix here.

XP was so overloaded that no one really knew how the formula worked, moving to a simpler model is better for the consistency and complexity of the game.

In general, non-XP combat boosts will work. So long as they weren't style specific/make sense to do so.

In general go with the 50 per 1k HP (then further halved for bosses).
(like Jayden said there are some cases that are now fixed on the wiki sheet though)

There are some cases that will deviate but they'll be rare/unique (such as quest bosses that have overridden values that won't use this (depending if it was supposed to be some form of reward for a one-time kill etc))

The idea behind low-level mob changes is to get combat feeling more 'normal' through a player's journey.
At a low level particularly in the live game, you one shot a large chunk of monsters, so there's no real need to use cool or interesting abilities as they _just_ also one shot them. Then you get to mid/late game and the gameplay of all of combat is just completely different.
We're hoping making it consistent will help ease players into combat rather than giving them whiplash when fighting different monsters.

Regarding XP / Bosses, right now XP for bosses is kinda 'whatever a dev feels like it should be' or they copy the previous thing, which often isn't great to interact with and results in unintended problems. So we've made a system that lets bosses have a consistent XP rate that isn't a trivial amount (you _could_ train there) but that also won't be the best place to go.