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Hey have chucked a bug in to resolve this. Thanks for the post!

It's been upped to 5k to match grenwall spikes - not sure it'll be live monday, might be the week after

Partly to stop us having to reshuffle, partly because it matches the tendrils too. (we could shuffle everything around in the future, (so mage becomes ice tendrils, ranged becomes smoke but its a bit of a chunk of work, then deciding what to do with ice asylum etc, so everything lines up nicely. But right now this seemed like the best option so I can work on other necro fixes/improvements)

I believe this was related to a bit of code the ice nihil specifically had that the others didn't

I've removed all the ice nihil specific stuff so it'll just work as a necro version of the other ones. If you notice this still happening after monday give me a shout/put in a bug and i'll take a look (but hoping this fixed it)

It does work yes (all crit buffs your used to will work for necro) . A few players have stated it doesn't because of the crit chance UI element not updating - that currently only displays your base crit chance - modifiers will be added at a later date when we can further clean up the crit system :)

Fastest is too slow. Yes, we're gonna have to go right to ludicrous speed...

It's an option yeah - either that or seeing if we can specify zombies poison to go into the necro damage channel (would give xp) but keep it kinda cool that it stacks with poison buffs

As a heads up we're aware regarding poison sapping XP, but it's not a new thing we added with necro, it's always been a thing (admittedly it was less impactful before for non-irons, because damage channels were a little broken and so it only sapped 1% no matter what).

We've got a bug in to fix this! thanks for the heads up nonetheless

Appreciate it - we're chatting about giving bosses and some mobs a little more 'umph' when it comes to XP, will look to fix these alongside it

Hey, I had a look, this doesn't appear to be a thing. (death skulls doesn't actually attack the player to trigger a dodge) (tested on my dev world when setting dodge to 100% to be sure)

I'd hazard a guess that it could instead be either: you were standing outside of skull range, or boss was immune, setting the skull damage to 0

- As a note we're looking into both of these issues :)

Appreciate the reply/feedback!
There are a number of things we want to do to further improve the combat XP system, but still think it was the right decision to push it out with necro to give us better control over XP and necro in its entirety. A few of the things you've listed are things we're going to discuss fully / investigate when we can (XP mods to mechanically intensive monsters / single target mobs / bosses etc)

Clarity point re: poison
- This is a fair point, but was a part of the old system (but was bugged to only take 1% of your XP from poison in a fair chunk of cases) so not something we've actively changed. It's not on our urgent list to address but we we're considering passing zombie poison specifically through the necro damage channel (meaning it'd give XP)

Checking back in on the thread today - I am yeah but lost time Wednesday to working on necro fixes for mondays release (and have been at a wedding thursday/today).

Will try to do a write up when i can :)

Ite yeah, we should do this.

Corruptions / slaughter / tendies also wouldn't be affected by potion boost

Yeah would agree, depending on how/what the resolution is, i think the 'lost' damage from gconc could be better served somewhere else in mage if it keeps the same DPS for an overal rotation.

Personally I would lean towards removing it and adjusting the abilities that are heavily impacted by it, but maybe there is a better way?

This is the sorta thing we're looking at -find the best way to remove it with as little negative impact as possible.

Hey an earlier hotfix caused this. The team is working on a fix to resolve this asap. Apologies for the inconvienience

Necro will not receive it no. It was designed with that in mind. :)

Appreciate the reply! - will look to go through others soon too.

Part of the issue with adding it to the tooltip is that it's not exclusive to overloads but anything in game that can stat boost you. Which ends up being a whole lot that needs to dynamically state the boost depending on the how much it's boosting by. That and I struggle to find a way to actually explain the boost in simple terms. It is a nice idea though.

Interestingly in your list the basic bleeds aren't/weren't actually affected by the stat boost previously iirc

*Updated : 13:10 game time*

Hello, I'm gonna jump in to try and give some clarity on this stoof.

Firstly - I wanna apologize for the lack of communication on my own behalf, it's been a manic couple of days with a whole lot going on behind the scenes. You'll start to see me and a few of the other devs coming to life now.

If there's anything I've missed in the thread feel free to let me know and I'll try to comment when I can.

Potion Stat Boost

TLDR: This one was short-sighted on my end.

Why we wanted to do it:

We don't feel Invisible buffs/debuffs are great for the game, nor are they good for players that don't already know about their effects.(On a more extreme case : You'd be surprised at how many returning players were getting confused/frustrated when attacking ghost trolls and missing because theyre wearing full melee gear, due to it just being a harsh invisible debuff)

I'd say it's the opposite - it's riskier using the live values because XP rates differ by such an incredibly large margin, and there's so many underlying issues to and methods to cheese the existing system.
When we first addressed XP we had a XP mod for necro of 35-70% ranging with level, however, this just cemented the idea that you had to go to very specific locations because the difference in XP between 2 mobs could differ so greatly.
Players would hit 99 in just a few hours as soon as they could hit a high-end method (I don't think anyone would agree that a new skill should be 'complete' so quickly. Part of what I think made archaeology so great was the real sense of progression and discovery, not turboing through. Had archaeology had a turbo method, players would've felt inclined to do so and ruined the experience)

We _couldve_ used a harsher XP mod, but this had caveats too - (we bring the 2m XP/Hr method down to e.g. 500k.) But now what was originally a 500...