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We've shown through the previous iterations we're not going to just implement things without player feedback, its our primary concern.

Why are you changing FSOA again?
We pulled down crit adrenaline values because power being introduced with the beta players had commented on being too high, so it was a lever for us to pull and see what happens. As a result magic (which was in a good place powerwise on the beta fell behind so we wanted to give some of that back)

Now we've moved onto the BOLG and adrenaline gaining abilities?
Yes, they were levers we wanted to try and see what players do and dont like. Botlg generally speaking had gained alot of power from crit chance, damage and hitcap, so we wanted to try pulling those down, as it wasn't in need of extra power, and players had commented on it.

We need to be able to have adult conversations about these things as community, so we can kee...

It's worth stating that the beta's purpose is porting parts of whats good from necro over (hitcap/crit etc) It's not intended to solely pull you over to the other styles, doing so would require more changes/complexity than this beta would allow.

We want players to come away from this with the new systems in, and combat feeling nicer, but it doesn't have to do everything at once.

Hey all! Appreciate some of the changes here can feel like 'nerf,nerf,nerf'
That is the case for somethings, absolutely compared to the previous beta iteration, but it is worth iterating that the beta is just a test environment and this has been on purpose, so you can tell us exactly what still feels good/bad.

(e.g. "my kill times at kerapac have gone up, compared to live, but i'm having less fun due to lack of adrenaline" - great we could bump back up crit adrenaline, and bring down some damage values etc.)

It's important that you try them out and compare to the live game so the feedback is useable as some comments of "X number has gone down, don't do it" might not be taking into account the whole picture of damage gained in the beta through increased crit chance/damage/hitcap etc.

If the general consensus is leaning in one direction after you've tried them out we could hotfix in different beta values to try out different combinations (e.g. ...

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Hey so worth stating purely my opinion (not necessarily the opinions of the rest of the team), but I feel that necro is overtuned mostly in numbers and would only need some slight tweaks to be better in line.

IMO burst is slightly too high for a style that has a large continual damage source and if you want that big burst you should be sacrificing the continual damage in some form.

To be specific I think death skulls and living death would be where i'd look to bring damage down. (potentially reducing Dskull damage slightly, LD's finger multiplier and maybe dskulls cooldown up slightly to stop you triple skulling)
Worth noting I only think these need very slight changes to bring the style fully in line.

There's other minor number tweaks i think would be positive for opening reward space for the style, e.g. conjure damage down slightly so you're reliant on choosing conjure positive gear if you want to play around them etc.

Thanks Rubic - worth me clarifying, I thought the mob stat rerebalance (turoths and co) was going out today (5th feb) but I was mistaken and it's set for the next update.

As always somethings don't quite come across as I necessarily intend when read, so happy to answer anyones questions if they want stuff clarifying from the stream.

Worth clarifying because I can see it getting people confused. It's a little out of context reading it instead of watching and wasn't fully a serious suggestion nor was it fully jesting.

I genuinely think there are problems with resonance that affect combat and the wider game, but that doesn't mean it's going anywhere. I think the only time it'd be changed realistically is if we got to do a full defence book / shield rework of some form.

looks like it should work, yeah.

Hey, from what i can see the following mobs have access to it:

Burthorpe intro trolls (if the farming path is done)
Mogre
Rockslugs
'Farmers' (not on F2P worlds)
Catablepon
Cave crawlers
Rocklobsters
General malpractitioner
Rum Pumped Crabs
Tenacious toucan
Giant ant worker
Reborn warriors (all varieties from the Phoenix cave)
Exiled kalphite soldier/paragon

I could be wrong (i often am) but i think you might have a better time farming them, like another user stated. Because of the damage range squish your min hit is going to be up so you can probably one shot them with a higher variety of builds

Anything you 'can' do would be helpful really.

Of note in a seperate update (coming soon-ish) i've toned down most of the low level slayer mobs that were giving players troubles so you shouldn't get slain yourself so much.

FWIW I agree, it's a multi stage process though and we wanna check players are happy each step of the way rather than doing everything at once.

extra hits changed from 30->32.5 and from 10->12 (not 30->10)

SGB should work roughly the same right now IIRC (the only changes were damage range squishing which all the other abilities got too)

We have a job in to rewrite the special at some point - (just back end changes really) that shouldn't really change how you play with it/how impactful it is

To reiterate:

KEKW

thank you.

Yo, I can see you're a very passionate player, so I appreciate the post even with the way it's been approached.

I stand by the fact that monsters were harshly balanced with EOC, as an example; level 77 basilisks were 4,000 HP, with a max hit of 220 damage: if you did a 'simple' translation to OS this would be the equivalent of them having a max hit of 2, which sounds whacky. Cows, some of the first monsters you meet had 25 HP the equivalent of 0.25 HP in OS, it does argue what's the point of them having HP at all.
We can go into why monsters should have relevant damage/hp (Buffs/Levels/Gear/abilities/food being of no relevance if I take no damage/1shot everything) but I don't want to bloat this out too much explaining each of them

Recently I posted about rebalancing a bunch of the monsters you can see here:

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Gave em a play test today, after some of the rebalance to bring down their accuracy/dmg you can soul split afk in ~70 power gear, I'd imagine lower stats/gear are still comfortable too

I'd say ~55 slayer is pretty spot on for low-mid level combat experience, champ.

yep cheers, gonna hit up turoths so theyre more in line with their slayer level ~55 than their current combat level

Kurasks fell in one of the upper categories so need a rebalance to start so i probably won't do those with this job

I can take a look, IIRC though only spiders out of those were changed