Hey, from what i can see the following mobs have access to it:
Burthorpe intro trolls (if the farming path is done)
Mogre
Rockslugs
'Farmers' (not on F2P worlds)
Catablepon
Cave crawlers
Rocklobsters
General malpractitioner
Rum Pumped Crabs
Tenacious toucan
Giant ant worker
Reborn warriors (all varieties from the Phoenix cave)
Exiled kalphite soldier/paragon
Equilibrium Aura has been redesigned
- Aura Effect: Now increases the player's ability damage stat by 12%, but prevents the player from critically striking.
Is caps farming dead?
I could be wrong (i often am) but i think you might have a better time farming them, like another user stated. Because of the damage range squish your min hit is going to be up so you can probably one shot them with a higher variety of builds
Okay guys, I am a noob with about 60s range/melee, 70 mage. I don't really have a reference point for low level combat pre-necro but coming back and doing some slayer recently before i trained necro, getting absolutely destroyed by low level mobs from a Mazchna task lmao.
How can i best do some testing / provide feedback for the beta? Any recommendations besides trying to run some slayer without necro? Or maybe a low level mob that you guys think is balanced around my levels to compare the others too? thanks :)
Anything you 'can' do would be helpful really.
Of note in a seperate update (coming soon-ish) i've toned down most of the low level slayer mobs that were giving players troubles so you shouldn't get slain yourself so much.
I feel the core issue of the old combat styles is still the uselessness of the abilities and the ridiculous bloat that comes from basic ability rotations.
Abilities should have a function aside from just doing damage and I would say only a fifth of the current basic abilities fit that criteria.
FWIW I agree, it's a multi stage process though and we wanna check players are happy each step of the way rather than doing everything at once.
Damage extra hits from 30-32.5 dropped to 10-12. Am I reading it wrong possibly?
extra hits changed from 30->32.5 and from 10->12 (not 30->10)
I can’t imagine the Herculean task this is to take on. I figure this is why there hasn’t been much update on new actual content. I appreciate that you folks are really giving this the best you can. I cannot wait to get to use my magic, ranged, and melee gear again! Everything looks great.
My only additional question following reading all this: Is the Seren God Bow spec any different aside from the loss of hit cap? Is SGB getting nerfed?
SGB should work roughly the same right now IIRC (the only changes were damage range squishing which all the other abilities got too)
We have a job in to rewrite the special at some point - (just back end changes really) that shouldn't really change how you play with it/how impactful it is
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To reiterate:
KEKW
thank you.
Yo, I can see you're a very passionate player, so I appreciate the post even with the way it's been approached.
I stand by the fact that monsters were harshly balanced with EOC, as an example; level 77 basilisks were 4,000 HP, with a max hit of 220 damage: if you did a 'simple' translation to OS this would be the equivalent of them having a max hit of 2, which sounds whacky. Cows, some of the first monsters you meet had 25 HP the equivalent of 0.25 HP in OS, it does argue what's the point of them having HP at all.
We can go into why monsters should have relevant damage/hp (Buffs/Levels/Gear/abilities/food being of no relevance if I take no damage/1shot everything) but I don't want to bloat this out too much explaining each of them
Recently I posted about rebalancing a bunch of the monsters you can see here:
Read moreAs long as they don't smoke you through 5 piece crypt again that'd be nice lol
Gave em a play test today, after some of the rebalance to bring down their accuracy/dmg you can soul split afk in ~70 power gear, I'd imagine lower stats/gear are still comfortable too
Y’all need to worry out rebalancing the low to mid-level combat experience, not trivial shit like this.
I'd say ~55 slayer is pretty spot on for low-mid level combat experience, champ.
Thanks for looking into this today Sponge.
I have one specifically I'd like to bring up: Turoths! I have 99/120 (where applicable) all, and these mid-tier slayer monsters absolutely hit like a truck. Moreover, their "stronger" version, Kurasks, don't even come close to their level of danger. I could not be afk at all during the turoths and getting those drops for log were miserable.
yep cheers, gonna hit up turoths so theyre more in line with their slayer level ~55 than their current combat level
Kurasks fell in one of the upper categories so need a rebalance to start so i probably won't do those with this job
Could you please look into early-mid tier mobs such as hellhounds, deadly red spiders, lesser/greater demons?
These are some of the few options that f2p players have to train combat, but even with 90-99 stats and full t50+ armor, they're wrecking them.
I can take a look, IIRC though only spiders out of those were changed
Early game slayer was a big thing, tried to reply to you on reddit but it seems you have me blocked, not sure why, but anyhow.
Banshee task, I killed 4 before having to bank, and this was using necromancy at lvl 40, with the tier 40 upgrades. and being told by a slayer master im to over levelled for them and to go to vanakka.
Things like low level slayer mobs in general, cows, chickens, the wolfs on white wolf mountain are 1 bite youre dead now. but my general testing seemed very weighted towards low level slayer, and anything even in the lumbridge catacombs is hitting 3 times harder, banking after 4-6 kills isnt a pleasant experience.
Appreciate the reply.
added banshees to my list of things to check over, I vaguely remember doing them on necro release myself without issue, were these regulars or might banshees and weird question : but were you using earmuffs
unblocked, not sure why/when i would've done that
I hate to say this, but I really need to.
Are these reversions really necessary?
I can see the community is upset about it here, but is there really harm in requiring players to level up a bit before having free reign of the world to explore? Does overworld combat have to be so easy?
FWIW i'm not looking to revert back to how it was pre-necro. But there are some clear issues where some mobs are overtuned and players aren't having fun at those as a result which is a problem
Read moreAs someone who maxed a long time ago I don’t care about any of this as it doesn’t affect me at all.
But that said, why isn’t rolling back low level monsters stats back to previous patch version an option?
Would it have not made more sense to increase a select number of monsters individually instead of blanket update to make sure it was the right move?
It seems odd that Jagex chose to do a blanket update with no foresight, it comes across as disingenuous and like many said, a poorly cobbled together idea to bandage another bad idea, at this point the game feels like a broken dam of issues and every patch you just make things worse by “trying to make it better”.
You brought out a new combat style which was massively over-tuned and to combat that, you thought the best course of action was to give all the lower level monsters steroids, which has basically ruined the levelling experience from what I can see.
I only play the game on and off so I d...
But that said, why isn’t rolling back low level monsters stats back to previous patch version an option?
So my stance on this is pre-patch they were absolutely in a worse place than current - (this is still the case for a chunk of mid-high end mobs), introducing a new combat style you want there to be clear reasons for different abilities, combos etc to exist at all stages of game play level 1 up to level 120 and for the game to transition across levels smoothly, had the changes not gone ahead, early/mid game necro your conjures wouldve essentially done nothing as the target would be dead before they ever arrived, the same can be said for ultimate abilities, whats the purpose of an ultimate if I'm killing the target with a basic in one hit, teaching players bad habits of not using these abilities throughout the early game, up until a sudden breakpoint where they hit modernly balanced monsters which then work completely differently to everything t...
Read moreMade a hc not too long ago for the Christmas event let's see what I can remember.
At level 1 attack you have ~20% accuracy against rabbits in burthope lol
Burthope trolls give 17 total xp, that's rough
Everything in the waterfall quest WAS pretty brutal. I was over leveled for it but it was still rough
The demon in the golem quest line was pretty difficult to hit with silver light and lvl 30 attack. Not sure how reasonable that was but maybe its ok
Literal bears by manor farm will also fk your day up lmao.
I avoided combat though so my experience is a bit limited
So having had a play myself, I wonder if you were wearing some off style gear early. As with bronze weapons & 1 stats im seeing a 68% hitchance vs rabbits.
Appreciate the others i can take a look
Hey, as someone in the replies posted - I'm looking into this today, there's clearly some issues early game.
If you have specifics issues you've encountered and the gear you were using it'll help me out.
Of note somethings I'll be looking to adjust:
Reducing the rigidity of stats: (a lot of mobs attack and defence stats line up exactly when they don't need to - a simple example is cows in live are 2 defence, 2 attack, when in reality they should be at the lowest defence as theyre super early game)
Making 'gatekeep' mobs less dangerous: Theres mobs in areas designed to keep players in a place for a period of time (wolves on Whitewolf Mountain designed to stop early players venturing out of burthorpe, troll chuckers etc) Going to bring these down a peg so theyre still stronger than e.g. the cows in burthorpe but not so strong that you have 0 chance of making it across the mountain
Matching expecta...
Read moreI replied to his tweet with this reddit link too, so hopefully he does look at it
thanks for that!
So the "basic auto" wasn't popular for Melee?
It's hard to judge because the current abilities weren't designed around it -> if we move forward with it we'd need to rework a fair number of their basic abilities to be more unique as in a simplified view right now they're 'just' damage.
Now that we've got some feedback on the system we're happy to pull it back out (and if we want to move forward with it: iterate on it and improve melee's basics to be more interesting alongside basic attacks (and make basic attacks more interesting))
We don't want to just leave it in half-baked as it'll warp other feedback
EDIT: just seen Ryan responded -> apologies for spam
Your comment about champions ring I just consider a design fail on my part -> I don't think I should've made a crit ring that's reliant on bleeds, with bleeds being anti-synergistic with crit. (really should've been a more generic crit ring, then an additional bleed ring that has nothing to do with crit, separately)
Arbitrary example, but something like this?: Crystalised time thread (from Kerapac for arguments sake) + 10 Warrior rings = Ring of Aeons
- Increases bleed duration by 50%
- Enchantment: Each time you deal damage with a bleed, reduce the cooldown of your bleed abilities by 0.6s.
A bleed ring could be a way to move away from switchscape with the MWSOA and maybe give it some other effect. It would also be a way to stop Ezk from becoming EoF fodder, I guess?
Yeah pretty much
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