SLG-Dennis

SLG-Dennis



22 Feb

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Originally posted by PlayerOneThousand

In the official discord in the “info-and-rules” channel it will show you all of the restarts for the entire year for all official channels

Those are also displayed in your computers' timezone, but it's 21 CET.


19 Feb

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Note that the seed only gives you the exact same map when everything else in WorldGenerator.eco is the exact same as well. Only a single setting in that config being different means the seed may not produce the same map.

18 Feb

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All current achievements can be received (though achieved is harder, as some are about tasks that realistically need multiple players) in singleplayer. We had thought about additional achievements (or levels thereof) that can only be gained on public servers and such only available via official servers. That is still a long while to go, though.

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Originally posted by steelcryo

Could you add it as a toggle? On by default ofc, but off for those that want it and no need to change the look of it. Personally I do find it gets in the way sometimes, so a toggle would be nice!

Yes, that would then be the plan. But given priorities, for that to be done anytime soon, that would require there to be notable interest which so far we haven't been seeing. It might be a good suggestion for https://feedback.play.eco

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Originally posted by Edward_Tank

"Funny side note: There absolutely is meteor denial"

Oh ok, so we're talking about roleplaying, which I mentioned and said has its own boons and issues as well. For instance I imagine more than one server will ban someone for pretending the meteor isn't coming and trying to jam up everyone's ability to accomplish anything because it's ruining the point of the server. (I know that's what I'd do. I have to deal with enough people trying to spoil attempts to save the real life world, thank you)

But I mean you can continue to pretend I didn't mention that at all. If that's what you want.

"In the next topic you go into I am getting horribly confused as to me it seems you are trying to make a point about people realistically should behave differently than they factually do but then talk about how realism in a game shouldn't play as much role."

In the attempt to explain this better:

What I'm saying is that respecting players time is paramount in ...

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You omitted the whole relevant part that wasn't a funny sidenote and was about how in reality barely anyone playing Eco does so with meteor danger in mind or adjusting to it in the way you suggested. People play the game mostly as an economical simulation, then at some point destroy the meteor. The whole suggested thought process of "We need to destroy the meteor and that means we all must do everything we can as one people and for this we need no money" does not exist outside of small co-op games and is a true utopian goal to reach on a server with dozens to hundreds of players. Interests of players are different and there is not few players that even just simply want to be the richest at the end of the cycle (as they, for example, play Eco due to the economical possibilities but not due to ecology or the meteor), not giving any deeper thought to the meteor at all (or even minding if it hits, as long as personal goals were reached). They do know it is coming, but they draw no spec...

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Originally posted by _aids

Removing stockpile linking will kill the almost dead game

Stockpile linking is not going away. This is about moving items via UI around at no cost whatsoever, up to chaining up stockpiles to not need to use vehicles and infrastructure.


17 Feb

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Originally posted by Dewar654

How do i use another claim stake?
I can only craft the homestead one and it says that you can only have one.
Do i need a different kind of claim stake?

Claim stakes and papers are produced in the town foundation and can be distributed by its mayor.

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Originally posted by SLG-Dennis

The claim isn't false - you are assuming that most other players would think like you. But that isn't the case. It ultimately is a game - which means players can join and leave whenever they please. There is no way we could give people a real sense of urgency that would make their thoughts adjust to it as if the same happened in real life (and then we'd honestly only have looting and crime, at least in my opinion), if they aren't already willing to do so. And it's simply a matter of fact that the absolute vast majority of players do not adjust to roleplay that setting and behave in a way that you would expect people to do when faced with this knowledge. They build up a very normal society, without the meteor controlling their thoughts in the meanwhile and focus on it once they are ready. Panic at most comes up when the timer is nearing the end and they're having difficulty to get together the last needed materials.

Funny side note: There absolutely is meteor denial, it's ac...

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By the way: You may want to start a new world to reapply configs to the world you are currently playing or setting up configuration correctly, happy to help you with that. You will already see in the config screen there is settings for claim papers on settlement on worlds - but given you are capable to dig into the server to disable settlements, I would have assumed you found those settings automatically set for No Collaboration as well.

You find them in Difficulty.eco:

"ClaimStakesGrantedUponSkillscrollConsumedAndSettlementsDisabled": 1.0,

"ClaimPapersGrantedUponSkillscrollConsumedAndSettlementsDisabled": 5.0,

"ClaimStakesGrantedUponSkillscrollConsumedAndSettlementsEnabled": 0.0,

"ClaimPapersGrantedUponSkillscrollConsumedAndSettlementsEnabled": 0.0,

They should be self-explaining, otherwise just hit me up via DM and we'll get it sorted.

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Originally posted by SLG-Dennis

The claim isn't false - you are assuming that most other players would think like you. But that isn't the case. It ultimately is a game - which means players can join and leave whenever they please. There is no way we could give people a real sense of urgency that would make their thoughts adjust to it as if the same happened in real life (and then we'd honestly only have looting and crime, at least in my opinion), if they aren't already willing to do so. And it's simply a matter of fact that the absolute vast majority of players do not adjust to roleplay that setting and behave in a way that you would expect people to do when faced with this knowledge. They build up a very normal society, without the meteor controlling their thoughts in the meanwhile and focus on it once they are ready. Panic at most comes up when the timer is nearing the end and they're having difficulty to get together the last needed materials.

Funny side note: There absolutely is meteor denial, it's ac...

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And again over the limit:
The point I really want to make is that there is no such thing as generalized players. I have real life friends that only touch Eco out of support for me as they only play games with triple A graphical spectacle - what they do being rather irrelevant, fully fine if playtime is only 8 hours for $99 and a slog during that, then they are finished. Yet, we have players already not happy about the animations we do have so far, as they value efficiency over atmosphere.

I don't care about graphics, I mostly play sandbox and roleplay games. I would never buy most AAA titles and have the rule of a game must provide 1 hour of playtime per buck or I don't buy it. I don't have any more time as my friends (and neither have family responsibilities yet and all work full time). And it's been a problem to find games to play together for a while, because despite us mostly playing at the same time, we tend to play different games, just sitting in TeamSpeak toget...

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Originally posted by Edward_Tank

First of all I want to thank you for the detailed response regarding the intentions of the creative team, I can respect the wish to make the game you want to see made, and I wish you all luck for it. I truly hope that I end up being wrong about my concerns, and regardless I hope you all find success and enjoyment in this, and truly if I didn't care about the game's success, I would not offer any critique or compliments on things in said game.

However I do have some issues with some statements you've made.

The claim that no this is just like IRL wrt the doomed state of the planet is. . .False. Like, from the entire *point* of the game, everyone knows that the world is doomed. Literally everyone when they log onto a server can look up and see a timer saying when the meteor is going to impact. There is no 'meteor denial', there is only the cold hard fact of 'Meteor coming in X amount of days'.

You *all* know the world is doomed if nothing is done about it. This...

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The claim isn't false - you are assuming that most other players would think like you. But that isn't the case. It ultimately is a game - which means players can join and leave whenever they please. There is no way we could give people a real sense of urgency that would make their thoughts adjust to it as if the same happened in real life (and then we'd honestly only have looting and crime, at least in my opinion), if they aren't already willing to do so. And it's simply a matter of fact that the absolute vast majority of players do not adjust to roleplay that setting and behave in a way that you would expect people to do when faced with this knowledge. They build up a very normal society, without the meteor controlling their thoughts in the meanwhile and focus on it once they are ready. Panic at most comes up when the timer is nearing the end and they're having difficulty to get together the last needed materials.

Funny side note: There absolutely is meteor denial, it's ac...

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Originally posted by curious__gal__279

ugh so in other ways there no solution and this game has been out for so many years......and they haven thought about fixing it

We haven't thought about fixing it, because it is not a bug and working as intended. If it is very distracting for you personally, not picking up rocks until while mining is a easy solution. I added your request to the internal suggestion we already had about this by three other users, but given the number of requests is very low I can't make you any hopes that we'd change anything about that soon.

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You cannot and it doesn't work like that - to get the exact same world again you need the exact same WorldGenerator .eco file, just saving the map seed will not give you the same world. If you haven't generated a new world since you created this map the file will still be the same. You find it in /Steam/steamapps/common/Eco/Eco_Data/Server/Configs. Note that you can only generate a world via this file by starting the dedicated server manually, as trying to start a new game with random seed from within the game will overwrite whatever it currently contains.

If you just didn't get your settings right, you can just create a new world (and backup the file above if you want for the future) and reconfigure the settings - these will also apply when loading your old world, as settings in Eco are not per world.


16 Feb

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
No, Eco does not have controller support currently.
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
We are actually very active in responding here, as I sometimes hear, too active for some. Feel free to reach out whenever you need something :)
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Originally posted by SLG-Dennis

Well, because we are in Early Access and not all features we want are yet implemented.

We are actually going to change logistics to require manual intervention in a way similar to what you talked about. Inventory transfers will be limited to very short range transfers and require calories that only allow sorting compact facilities, mass transfers and big sized goods are supposed to require vehicles to transport. We had a post on that a good while back with shelves, containers, forklifts and container ships - and if we did trains, they would be used for exactly that as well. Stockpile elevators as you are probably known to currently are actually an exploit resulting from the fact that we couldn't make this possible yet. We never intended for players to creatively chain link a mechanic that is intended for short range inventory access and sorting to be used as an efficient transport mechanic. But we also see no reason to do something against that until we have our logistics o...

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Given my text space went out, there is one more thing I wanted to note:
Eco, contrary to potentially popular belief, was never made to depict a specific way of how things should be done. While many of our team would probably classify as people that would appreciate getting to a Star Trek society, Eco was developed with the idea that players figure out themselves what works and what does not and we don't judge at all when a dictatorship works best for some people or if they use the most weird economic systems. The point is offering many different options on how to found a society. And depending on who plays on any specific server opinions can vary massively and so do majorities. Settlements were also introduced to allow like-minded players to get together more locally, making governance easier, as multiple systems can co-exist and only need to compromise on more global matters. We're not here to judge how players approach the goal, on if that is a utopian approach, a fully capi...

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Originally posted by Edward_Tank

Then why abstract the ability to transfer resources from stockpiles at all? If you want to build something you should have to carry each and every resource there by hand until you've built a crane.

Is it because it would make the game tedious? Unfun?

How is having to pick up a grand total of 3 clods for the majority of my play time not tedious and unfun? I'm still having to *dig* them up, I'm still having to shove them in a wheelbarrow or cart, I'm still having to haul them around. It's literally just removing the excess busywork.

I respectfully disagree.

Edit: In a world where we either all work together or we all die horribly, I don't really see the point of money or labor contracts. If it's for the potential survival of the planet, Why should I seek pay? Why should anyone seek money when you can work together to ensure everyone gets what they need in order to save the planet? This isn't like RL where there's idiots who *Swear* the planet will be t...

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Well, because we are in Early Access and not all features we want are yet implemented.

We are actually going to change logistics to require manual intervention in a way similar to what you talked about. Inventory transfers will be limited to very short range transfers and require calories that only allow sorting compact facilities, mass transfers and big sized goods are supposed to require vehicles to transport. We had a post on that a good while back with shelves, containers, forklifts and container ships - and if we did trains, they would be used for exactly that as well. Stockpile elevators as you are probably known to currently are actually an exploit resulting from the fact that we couldn't make this possible yet. We never intended for players to creatively chain link a mechanic that is intended for short range inventory access and sorting to be used as an efficient transport mechanic. But we also see no reason to do something against that until we have our logistics o...

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Originally posted by VexingRaven

I have literally never seen somebody create a labor contract for digging. Is this a White Tiger thing?

I just don't see how you can reconcile the disparity between being able to pick up 5 whole blocks worth of rock with your bare hands while dirt is not only 1 at a time but also totally totally removes your ability to do anything else while you carry it.

Well, all personal experiences, including mine, will be solely anecdotical. I see that regularly on the servers I play or visit, which is mostly bigger and economy focused servers. Digging contracts even were a nice early game way to earn money quickly for newer players and I tend to have my basement be digged out that way as well. White Tiger itself actually doesn't do that anymore, as we have UBI and just spawn the government basements.

With the second part of your post the problem is the assumption that this would need to be reconciled, which it doesn't as the difference is fully intended. Digging and Mining are different activities, with the latter being in much higher demand throughout the whole cycle and being a much more lasting task compared to Digging (when not terraforming, which is not intended at early stages), so it also can work differently. It also doesn't use a tool to pickup or hold materials. Shovels have always allowed to transfer the maximum amount quick...

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15 Feb

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
The issue is known and will be resolved in next week's patch.
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
It is possible your configuration settings were reset when reinstalling. You can quickly fix that by just starting another world with custom settings, configure them to your liking and then switch back to the old world - it will then have the same settings, as they are all shared.
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
For singleplayer we generally recommend No Collaboration. You can tweak it around to your personal liking, but the main problem is that we don't know your or others personal liking, which is why we give these detail options. No Collaboration fits most, but for some it's still too long to get new professions, while for others (granted, less people) it's not challenging at all.