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Unfortunately that was one we couldn't make retroactive out of the Special Mission due to how it's tracked.

Good feedback for the team for future Special Mission consideration though - it's designed to feel additive to playing the latest content, which doesn't apply in your case.

Thank you for the feedback on this. Been mentioning it a bunch, but we are looking at rewards for Ironmen players at the moment - we'll add this to the feedback we're passing along for the team to consider.

We should definitely follow up on this with the team.

Tagging /u/JagexDoom as I'm away over the next week after today. Hopefully we can get you an update.

Awaiting System Update means the content work is done, it just needs QA and implementation into a release. Expect to see a lot of these next week.

We're passing this to the team now to take a look at along with the replies. Thanks for the feedback.

This is feedback we'll be watching closely. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - please keep it coming if you feel this way in the next week or so once you've had some hands on time with it.

Thank you for the feedback!

We'll add this to our current Ironman discussions for consideration. We're looking at Ironman rewards all up based on last week.

Clues are rewarded in Hero Pass as well. It acknowledges more than just skilling XP - bossing, clue scrolls etc are all covered.

To be clear, Daily Missions reward you for doing anything pretty much - you do not have to do a specific task or skill. Simply playing will progress the Daily Mission, without needing to alter your gameplay in any way.

In terms of if you miss that short, sharper burst of a Daily reward of some kind - that's feedback we can look at if it feels like the experience isn't delivering on the intent. We're absolutely open to feedback on how this plays, and what people want to see changed.

We are looking at the Ironman rewards for Hero Pass and looking to make improvements based on the feedback last week.

The team have been considering options on how we can make it better on that front - whether that's giving you more things worth spending Oddments on, some refinement to Ironman Hero Pass rewards or potentially both.

We felt it would be better to be transparent on why there's less Patch Notes than usual this week - especially when we've got lots of Necromancy feedback development still ongoing - than just have a small Patch Notes section with no context.

That's not Mod Keeper's fault.

Doom mentioned it last week, but this was a mistake on our part to not catch the error and we are sorry to those of you who felt misled by it. Wasn't the intent.

Heads down in Necromancy, we didn't stop and properly consider 'Major Update TBA' on the Development Update image. Lesson learned, we got that wrong and won't be making that mistake again.

While it is a major update after a long project from the previous Yak Track team to make something fundamentally integrated and much improved based on issues with Yak Track (if we got it right!) - which is where this term came from - we shouldn't have been using that term publicly.

It also shouldn't have been on a Development Update image, which no matter how we label them are seen as Content Roadmaps, which we also understand is why expectations were overstated for this. We don't see this as content, we see it as a system/reward based feature.

We are genuinely excite...

You will complete them just by playing the game. If you put around 40 minutes or so of general time in doing whatever you'd prefer to be doing, based on the balancing goals, Daily Missions should be complete. You can half that if you focus on the skill tied to it if you want to speed it up.

I do want to restress something that was said in the original Hero Pass post though - these aren't supposed to be the same as Daily Challenges, but we made a concession on the design.

The XP Lamps being in there dilutes the original intent, which was more for the Missions to just reward you with progress for the days you play vs being 'Dailies' you feel compelled to do. We did something that somewhat conflicts with our design intent because we didn't want to fully pull XP from a Daily system without further consultation from the community on it.

If the end result of this is it feels worse because now you're having to spend 40 minutes to chase XP, that's a valid bit of fee...

The feedback from Ironmen in general on Hero Pass might take us a little time, but conversations have already started on what options we can look at to improve. We'll keep you updated as they progress.

We covered it a little here: https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=97/hero-pass-a-better-more-rewarding-runescape

Hero Pass Satchels are another reward you'll earn that are packed with gameplay-focused goodies.

These satchels offer random rewards from a drop table, featuring items like Gifts of the Reaper, Sealed Clue Scrolls, Slayer VIP coupons, Ports resources, Starved Ancient Effigies, Dungeoneering Tokens, Goebie Burial Charms and more. This is all part of ensuring Hero Pass adds to your play and gets yo...

We hear you on this, especially so when it comes to Ironman players who have wracked up a lot of Oddments and need something to do with them.

The team are looking into options for Ironman rewards for the future in Hero Pass and/or discussing ways we could make the Oddments Store better for Ironman players based on the feedback so far.

It won't be something we can address for Hero Pass launch, but we're working on this and looking at what we can do. If you have any suggestions/thoughts on Ironman based Oddments uses, please do share them as we can add them to the discussions.

No those are unchanged.

That refers to specific Mission benefits that just give you double progress.

All Daily and Weekly Basic Missions can be progressed by playing anything in the game - this just allows you to use Vis Wax to re-roll the double progress skill to what you are doing if you really want to. This is purely for optimisation though - the Daily Missions for example are balanced at 40 minutes for all 3 reward Tiers doing whatever.

Only Special Missions and Weekly Content Missions - which you have for the entirety of the Pass, with one added each week for Content Missions - are more specific. They are not compulsory for progress though.

If the design didn't include any Daily Missions, players who play regularly naturally would also be asking us to provide them something. There's always a balance.

The difference here is Daily Missions are designed to be good hits of Hero Pass Points, but not essential every day for progress. You have Weeklies (which stockpile even while you don't play / login), Special Missions and the ability to progress through general play outside of them.

The intent of the team is that you can progress playing on your own terms, but for those players who already like to log in every day, there's still some additional Missions to progress.

The inclusion of Lamps does change that design intent a little, but as we mentioned on stream, the team didn't want to go so far as to remove XP entirely from Dailies without further discussion/feedback from your time hands on with Hero Pass once it's out.

This is very much true.

Keeper works with us a lot, and is a big champion for a lot of the moves we've been making to be more in tune with player feedback development wise.

Whereas Warden liked to be out front, Keeper prefers to let the team speak for themselves and focus on everything internally. He's very much out here reading and paying a lot of attention, it's just a different approach.