JagexSponge

Please refrain from licking the salty crablets in the future.

This is now my phone background

Zryxa

Is that definitely spelt correctly?

All good - an easy mistake to make.

Seravail

Had a talk with your leprechaun - you've paid for ultra compost not super, but you have no ultra compost stored with the leprechaun.

Hit me with your IGN I'll take a look

Hey send me over your IGN if you can & i'll take a look at what's happening.

Iirc if you attempt to plant with only a single seed in inv the patch will just auto plant that without any interfaces (is it possible you only withdrew 1 bloodweed & that resulted in you getting the 7)

Let players trade the one-use seed. And you have to steal yourself the unlimited one. Let us alch the duplicates. Problem solved.

I can speak to the team about this - I'm not against changing it. When originally created I incorrectly assumed these would be balanced to be rarer than they are and it'd fall into the 'excessively expensive for a minimal buff' area.

I definitely think at a minimum the weak seed should be tradeable.

So if your just picking herbs without bombs theoretically you could go infinite. (this is part of the reason patch bombs have the 75 cap because theoretically, you could have an excessive amount of code running from a single person getting 1/billion chance luck with a patch bomb that would attempt to run on a single server cycle)

Yep they look to work in the same way (and nightshade)

Absolutely, cheers.

Na you can get way more when you take into account things like juju pot / aura / farmers outfit.

EDIT: Grammarly messed some stuff up.
Regarding patch bombs - there has been no change to how they act - the only change was mentioning there existing behaviour on the items examines because i noticed that information wasn't playerfacing.

I wrote up a full patchnote but looks like it was missed:

Patch bombs have always had a maximum 'base' number of herbs they could give when harvesting, but this was never displayed to players, the maximum is now displayed in the items examine. (Note this is purely the 'base' amount of herbs excluding buffs/modifiers and it is rare that players hit this number even with the new plant power tiers)

Hey I took a look at this.

So it is actually working - it's just impossible really to visibly see it.

So the outfit says:

• 10% chance to harvest more hops, herbs, nightshade and allotment crops.

What it's actually doing when you harvest from a herb patch is giving you a 10% chance to not lose a herb life.
So each time you pick a herb you either succeed or fail a herb life roll. (Base 3 lives, extra for compost / plant power etc) - If you fail a herb life roll you get the herb but the patch is now 1 life down (clearing at 0)

If you fail a herb life roll whilst wearing the outfit however, you then get a second 1/10 or 1/20 chance to save the life (depending on outfit tier) - you get the herb and the patch state doesn't change at all.

So from a player perspective, you don't actually see anything because you just keep picking herbs. We could add a message when your outfit saves your herb life so it's more appare...

I've asked QA to put a job in, i'll fix it yeah.

Yeah it's diminishing returns, there's a table of the herb lives on the Garden news post.

So i just checked, it looks like this is purely a messaging thing, you'll still gain the bonus from the cape, you're just not told how much the aura gives.

Would it be preferred if the messaging was given like the bombs?

Hey, I didn't make any changes to the scroll of life, we already had allotment seeds etc that use multiples but only returned 1 seed, so it is intended to still give 1.

Update: I've been informed that allotments can return their default amount of 3 seeds, - scroll of life code appears to just return whatever the default amount of seeds are for that plant. (either way i'll put a word in with skilling council and see what they think, but i don't see it as a high priority)

I think it will do with this fix, as they share a lot of code.

GL