PhreakRiot

I'll take fulfilling a compelling fantasy over balance every day.

Plenty of champions have successful thriving player bases even if they aren't strictly strong. There's a reason you've got Taliyah and Galio flairs and not Maokai and Sion.

And to be clear, Galio is a rock (petricite) solid 50% win rate mid laner and support right now. It's not like he's bad. He's been 47% while a priority pro pick.

PtA and Fleet both tend to outperform LT on average. Even Hail has a number of great users.

That LT gets auto-selected is more a fault of ADC players, not rune power level.

Me, too.

It'd be a pretty difficult project with significant implications even if it landed correctly. Maybe that gets prioritized against all the other work we could do but I'd guess it's not top 10 right now.

LDR also has a functionality change. On Live, it doesn't damage amp against shields, which is changing here.

Datamining is only so accurate.

The initial plan was to sidegrade Electrocute etc., which is why there were only some runes on the list. Goal was to take from gold scaling and give to level scaling, lowering snowballing slightly.

But we ended up going with minor power nerfs instead. For clarity, this is about 6% less damage on Electrocute until 3+ items. Ultra-late it's up to 25% less damage.

So because of that, we're adding more runes to the list. We're generally targeting about 10% less power across the primary offensive keystones. The PBE is not final, etc. etc. Lethal Tempo was always expected to be nerfed. This means Phase Rush, Grasp, etc. get more powerful by comparison. In the short term that's fine, though I suspect that's not healthy long term.

The context here is that Galio with prio puts him in pro jail. Galio as a weakside midlaner who scales well and helps his team allows us to tune him "strong" without becoming a mandatory pro pick.

For better or worse, pro play is mage-heavy. In turn, this means Galio is instantly in pro jail if he's actually heavily skewed toward mages so strongly that he just wins lane against them.

We're not trying to steer super strongly. For example, we could have buffed his armor, but that would be really troll to make the anti-mage actually best against Zed and Yasuo. He's probably still pretty good against them since he's good vs. melee, but we don't need to exacerbate that fact.

So Galio can be strong without having a ton of winning lane matchups. This means picking other parts (or times) of his kit to excel.

I can’t speak for anyone else but my first thought is, “ok let’s make Baron and staff of flowing water do something when you receive the buff. What’s a number that feels good but won’t make this clearly an AP champ?”

But then that usually has to be lower because of Sylas.

I do like the idea of specifying a bespoke AP ratio to each one, though.

Very broadly and not official:

No dashes at all? Probably heavy (Mordekaiser, Darius, Mundo). Items like Dead Man's Plate and Jak'Sho make sense for them. "Juggernaut" tends to apply here.

A button that makes you immune to damage for a short time? Probably light.

Neither of those? Probably medium.

Of course there are more than enough exceptions to make this not really apply. Red Kayn actually has Skirmisher/Light tools but clearly builds midsized and honestly should. But it's a decent starting framework.

Kled's weird. And as far as I can tell, Kled players like that he's weird.

Twitch also presently buys 0 AH unless he's AP Twitch.

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My stance (and I'm in a position to enforce it, mwa ha ha ha ha) is that "mid-size" fighters should be:

• Durable
• Using haste as a core stat
• Damage threats
• Fairly target agnostic

Not all fighters fall directly into the above. Skirmishers (Riven, Master Yi, Fiora, Viego, Tryndamere) are on average much less durable or rely on a "parry" (Fiora W, Yi W... Tryndamere R lol) in order to survive. But someone like Jarvan or Hecarim? Oh yeah, those bullet points apply IMO.

On average, sure. But every champion is unique. There are a lot of moving parts.

For example, long cooldown ults tend to be pro skewed, since the game is slower paced. I also don't think Jinx R can get that much stronger per cast. In the case of Jinx, a low cooldown ult can make sense. More of her power is in an impactful ability that she doesn't have strong gold scaling over. I do think Jinx could be nudged a bit away from "great platform for converting gold into DPS" and more, "All my buttons are weapons of mass destruction but I'm also still an ADC"

That's why we're buffing souls themselves. It's important that sitting back and scaling without interaction will lead to losing the game.

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Rare GalaxySmash L :(

Rumble shows up when Udyr or Morgana aren't available. Yep.

Video is uploading as I type this.

Except he wasn't lmao. The bracket stage was all Udyr-Morgana.

These things are objectively measurable and you can't do the bare minimum of being accurate on easily verifiable facts.

Yeah put some respect on that name.

lmao