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Originally posted by [deleted]

He only mentioned that lowering the prices did not increase sales, and if that's the case do you still find it fair for the person that does want to support you guys to need to spend 18 dollars on a cool skin? And it's actually 20 because that's the minimum you can spend to get said Legendary. If I get 3 SKINS for legends, that I can't even see while playing until I win that's basically a new Triple A game - like the next CoD, Cyberpunk 2077, or others.

Fortnite Legendary skins are 20 dollars as well, but it's a 3rd person game - your skin is always visible which is kinda nice. Still too much money, but at least it's somewhat justifiable, and I know that you're not the giant game that is Fortnite but still. I feel like a Legendary skin should be no more than 10 dollars. Epic skins 8 dollars, and anything below 5 dollars. That to me would be fair, as a 19 year old with a part time job that plays your game day in day out whenever I'm not working and earning money that I n...

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Originally posted by alcatrazcgp

There has been constructive feedback since day 1 of your lootboxes and overpriced skins, you kept them overpriced, and you kept the lootboxes, and we couldn't earn any more of your apex packs even if we got Max level.

You ignored this feedback. You put an underwhelming battle-pass out afterwards, of course you improved VERY MUCH on Season 2 with better rewards, better skins, and a Free hunt mode with grindable FREE skins. Amazing. you were going uphill until now

Originally posted by patrickreading

You’re right, but for him to call anyone an asshat for voicing their opinion hurts. Theres no way to not feel lumped in with who he’s calling names, because who he’s calling names are players voicing grievances. I have never attacked a dev but I have had grievances that I’ve wanted heard, does that make me an asshat? No doubt there are asshats in this community(people who attack the developers), but why does wanting the game to be better and communicating with developers put me in the same category as the toxic players he IS referring too.

ps, I really do appreciate all the work you and your team does. I can only imagine how tough todays been, nobody deserves the kind of ridicule you guys get. I wish everyone would try a little harder to be respectful to each other. Thank you for taking the time to reach out to people despite the hostility.

Originally posted by needsakoreangf

Dko5 literally said he recalled a moment in gaming history where the consumers weren't "asshats" and something something mob, something something how high.

So are we going to address reality? Or continue to indulge the fantasy world where 20 bucks for a skin, 200 for an event is the norm, and event boxes cost nearly the full amount of a season pass? You've got to understand where the people's discontent lies man. Not cool. And calling people names and grouping the community in such a way mischaracterizes the reason a lot of us are upset.

Originally posted by needsakoreangf

This is unprofessional. Whether or not it was directed at an individual or a group is not the question. You guys are gouging players on cosmetics and content and call people asshats for not liking the model. f**k sake man

Originally posted by Crowiii

Read through again, my mistake there, assumed you were talking about the " It was nice when people weren't asshats to developers" part.

Editing the original post to not be misleading, my bad.

The point was that by responding to backlash by calling (not all, again, my bad) the community ass hats isn't good damage control, it feels like getting kicked then spat on for asking why

Originally posted by Crowiii

I didn't say he called "all the community" asshats.

Also here's the source; https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/crcrxy/an_update_on_the_iron_crown_event/ex3xdif/?context=3

If you don't want to read then I'll post a direct quote underneath; "I've been in the industry long enough to remember when players weren't complete ass-hats to developers and it was pretty neat."

Originally posted by Crowiii

I understand when they're frustrated about some of the community being outright cunts and attacking them personally, but holy f**k they're out of touch by calling the community asshats because people are outraged about extortionate prices for items that have 0 meaning.

There was that one comment about "It was nice when people weren't asshats to developers" well shit, it was nice when developers created games that made us feel engaged, not just to give them more and more and more and more money.

F2p game needs to make money yes, but this shit? This aint it chief. No one was mad when you had 2 battle passes, premium currency and loot boxes but now jacking all those up a tier is f**king abysmal man.

Edit; hyperbolic misleading removal of "all community" in reference to the asshats part

Originally posted by tluther01

For future collection events, we will provide more ways to obtain items than just buying Apex Packs.

hows about allowing us to earn more stuff from just playing? wild hunt was perfect you could earn a few things from playing and buy stuff if you wished. why did the devs even for a second think switching it up from the event most agreed was a well done event in the first place? if it wasnt broke why fix it?

Originally posted by hb305

Completely abhor this meager attempt to walk back the backlash. And then the immature “well you wonder why we don’t talk to the community more..?” Talking about how your playerbase is full of “asshats” and “dicks”.....in your apology post..... not a good look at all.

What a surprise, people reject money hungry tactics and tend to respond angrily...... not gonna garner any sympathy from me, nor any playing time, and SURELY no more money. Bought battlepasses 1 and 2, nothing ever ever again.

Add that to your statistics showing “great player involvement” from this mockery of an event.... 👋🏻

Originally posted by EuropaWeGo

I appreciate the response to all of the wide spread complaints and concerns with the recent events pricing. It was very much needed.

Now with that being said. I do have a couple of questions as per the direction on expectations for the now.

My first question is are you wanting Battle Passes to be your main source of income or pricey events/loot boxes?

Also, the statement within this post and the responses by the developers in the comments. Seems to be clearly an attempt to paint a picture that more money is needed to keep the lights on. Which shouldn't be the case because unless the EA financial reports are fabricated. Then the overall revenue coming in from this game is greatly outpacing any type of potential expenses for the game and that includes future development. So why make it seem as if every penny is needed to keep development going when it isnt?

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Originally posted by AfghanFrmDaMountains

Here are some FULL games you can buy for $20 instead of spending it on a skin.

Rainbow Six: Siege

Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Stardew Valley

Rocket League

Terraria

'Dead by Daylight

Left for Dead 2

Sleeping Dogs

Cuphead

Borderlands 2

Detroit: Become Human

Minecraft (It's $27 but with Mods this is a game that you could play forever)

Overwatch (did not know it was $20 right now) This is one of my favorite games like ever.

Hollow Knight

Doom

Mount and Blade: Warband

Slime Rancher

My Friend Pedro

Hotline Miami 1&2 (beat one have not gotten around to two. f**kkkkkkking hard)

Also Game Pass. $15, 30 days, hundreds of games

All I'm saying is, spend wisely. :)

Edit: Wow My first gold and silver. Thank you anonymous ! My highest up-voted anything. Sucks that is has to be about loot boxes.

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Originally posted by NiceUsernamesTaken

So you're using the good old "start two steps over the line and then give one step back so that people think you appreciate the criticism" right? f**k off with that nonsense.

Originally posted by LordFarce

Hey man I'm just glad JayFresh is still alive. The silence from him killed us a bit

Originally posted by Party_McHardy

Naw, they just made a f**k load of money off the whales, Dev even admitted it, and now theyre doing some damage control for the average player base

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Originally posted by Pm_Me_Your_Worriment

EA's paid shills out in full force on this thread. Yikes.

Edit: if you see someone commenting by the name of u/LB-2187 just ignore him. He is all over the thread doing some sort of bizarre form of anti-damage control. Don't waste your energy on arguing with them.

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Originally posted by Zesty__96

Thank you for your response finally, I know it takes a couple of days to collect data and such but it was pretty clear the way this was heading..

Marketing F2P is a fine art which is yet to be nailed, I hope you see this is the wrong way about it and stay true to your word about the releases going forward.

Edit: /u/Dko5 really drew the short straw on this one, the community can be harsh (including my post yesterday) you’re only human take it easy on here.

Originally posted by asdgred

Is that why you felt the need to tell us we have no idea how companies are run? Even though yours had to be saved by EA after two bombs? It's amazing how fortnite has managed to be as huge as it is without your surprise mechanics. Did you ever stop to think that your store would be better off if you had awesome skins in it like from this event more often instead of the generic recolors you charge $20 for? Maybe it's us who are wrong the whole time. Btw paying streamers to open your boxes so kids will buy them is still scummy.