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I thought what Killroy was after was something along the lines of "If papercraft was made for more popular champions it would've sold better so Riot should look to try this on more popular champions and see how it does."

I was trying to say that we control for a lot of factors including the popularity of the champion when we measure performance. Unfortunately, Papercraft didn't meet those standards even when accounting for for popularity. Alternatively, its likely Papercraft would've performed poorly regardless of the champion we put it on vs. the champion popularity.

If the question was "Why don't we test new skinlines on popular champs to begin with?" I would say it mostly has to do with risk. If we create a theme no one wants and the skin does very poorly - that's not only a huge hit to our revenue but also means far more players didn't get something they would've wanted instead. To me that's kindof a lose-lose for everyone involved.

We definitely that that into account. We absolutely see that some thematics perform well on some champions or even classes (tank, mage, etc) than others.

Notes on your Bard suggestion but can’t make any promises. :)

Skins are reviewed for competitive gameplay clarity and some don’t make the cut for pro play. Some of that is based on pro feedback, other cases it’s because a skin might be confusing for a new player of League who’s being exposed to it through watching a pro game for the first time. I unfortunately don’t have that list on-hand.

Historically we would do a spread of concepts and and then pick a few champions we thought were the best fit.

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t. Dunk master Ivern is an example where we think we could have done a better job of understanding what Ivern mains wanted before selecting that thematic.

Today we do a lot more. We survey mains of a champ and try to understand what thematics interest them as an example.

Our goal moving forward is to work harder to understand what players want for any given champion and do our best to really deliver, particularly for mains of any given champ.

All that being said, everyone still likes different things, and we’re not going to be able to please everyone all of the time, but know we’re trying to do our best. :)

It is true that we make skins for popular champs. These skins reach the most players and our goal is to serve as many players as we can.

It is not true that lower play rate champions do not get any skins. In 2019 we’ve hit Anivia, Nunu, Ivern, Shaco, Udyr, Shen, Galio, Veigar, Nocturne, and more to come.

As a side note. We’re trying to build more skins per year with the goal of reaching as many champions and players as possible. There are more than 140 champs in League now so it’s getting harder to serve large groups of players with a single skin, but we’re doing what we can to scale up to meet the needs of players.

This. As Product Lead for the Personalization Team, we do not have any influence or say on what pro players play skin wise in any League.

The onus is on our creative teams to make awesome skins that pros then choose to play. In our view this is good as it serves as a forcing function to push us to make better and better skins.

Hey Folks. My name is Bellissimoh and I’m the Product Lead for Personalization on League. Wanted to take a second to talk about thematics broadly as there’s a lot of great conversation going on here.

1. Thematic Distribution - In any given year we try to have a mix of established thematics that we know players like and newly developed thematics that we take a risk on and hope players enjoy.

2. Thematic Selection - There’s a lot that goes into this process nowadays. We survey players and try to understand which thematics are the most desired. We also look at how well previous releases did in terms of players purchasing, using in game, and also perceived quality via surveys to skin owners. As someone mentioned earlier, if players don’t show up for a skin line, it hurts the chances of us making more champions in that line. We want to make things that you guys love, or spend time discovering new thematics you might love rather than continuing to spend ...

Tears up "Tilt Types 2" script

Not gonna lie, we may be giving out "brick" results too much with the quiz logic. Working on a fix for that.

Paladin reporting in here. I felt that sh*t in my soul.

Paladin reporting in here. I felt that sh*t in my soul.

Oh damn! Let us know how it goes.

hi i’m still at riot

Fun fact, that was written in a dark room while staring at the reflection in the mirror, waiting for queue pop.

You can tell your friends I specifically made that change because you requested it and articulated your reasoning very well, and we agreed. :)

I can confirm this is a Rioter and the one you should talk to about the project! The guy in charge of Reddit red names is off for the night, so ask DashiJador questions if you have any!

Just subtle trolling from a giant LeBron stan :P. Although in the wake of the last Lakers year, not a hot take I'm particularly #confidant in anymore haha.

Ugh, thank you -- this totally slipped past us. It might be too late to deploy a fix today, but we'll try to get to this and any other typos ASAP.

Hey this is my first post on reddit so be gentle.

...but to add context I work as part of the team that sets the strategy for how League of Legends monetizes which includes skins. We create predictions on how skins will perform before we make a skinline which includes the playrate of certain champions as well as a multitude of other factors. Even accounting for those factors Papaercraft didn't do great. Personally, I'm pretty sad about it as I think they're utterly gorgeous.

I'm not sure what our plans our for next year regarding Papercraft but either way its a really tough choice. Ultimately, we aim to make things for you folks the players and not ourselves so its always a battle between really wanting to believe in a skinline like Papercraft and weighing it out vs. the feedback and engagement we get.

Hmm, will check this out. Thanks for letting us know.