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It's an option yeah - either that or seeing if we can specify zombies poison to go into the necro damage channel (would give xp) but keep it kinda cool that it stacks with poison buffs

As a heads up we're aware regarding poison sapping XP, but it's not a new thing we added with necro, it's always been a thing (admittedly it was less impactful before for non-irons, because damage channels were a little broken and so it only sapped 1% no matter what).

We've got a bug in to fix this! thanks for the heads up nonetheless

Appreciate it - we're chatting about giving bosses and some mobs a little more 'umph' when it comes to XP, will look to fix these alongside it

Hey, I had a look, this doesn't appear to be a thing. (death skulls doesn't actually attack the player to trigger a dodge) (tested on my dev world when setting dodge to 100% to be sure)

I'd hazard a guess that it could instead be either: you were standing outside of skull range, or boss was immune, setting the skull damage to 0

- As a note we're looking into both of these issues :)

Appreciate the reply/feedback!
There are a number of things we want to do to further improve the combat XP system, but still think it was the right decision to push it out with necro to give us better control over XP and necro in its entirety. A few of the things you've listed are things we're going to discuss fully / investigate when we can (XP mods to mechanically intensive monsters / single target mobs / bosses etc)

Clarity point re: poison
- This is a fair point, but was a part of the old system (but was bugged to only take 1% of your XP from poison in a fair chunk of cases) so not something we've actively changed. It's not on our urgent list to address but we we're considering passing zombie poison specifically through the necro damage channel (meaning it'd give XP)

Checking back in on the thread today - I am yeah but lost time Wednesday to working on necro fixes for mondays release (and have been at a wedding thursday/today).

Will try to do a write up when i can :)

Ite yeah, we should do this.

Corruptions / slaughter / tendies also wouldn't be affected by potion boost

Yeah would agree, depending on how/what the resolution is, i think the 'lost' damage from gconc could be better served somewhere else in mage if it keeps the same DPS for an overal rotation.

Personally I would lean towards removing it and adjusting the abilities that are heavily impacted by it, but maybe there is a better way?

This is the sorta thing we're looking at -find the best way to remove it with as little negative impact as possible.

Hey an earlier hotfix caused this. The team is working on a fix to resolve this asap. Apologies for the inconvienience

Necro will not receive it no. It was designed with that in mind. :)

Appreciate the reply! - will look to go through others soon too.

Part of the issue with adding it to the tooltip is that it's not exclusive to overloads but anything in game that can stat boost you. Which ends up being a whole lot that needs to dynamically state the boost depending on the how much it's boosting by. That and I struggle to find a way to actually explain the boost in simple terms. It is a nice idea though.

Interestingly in your list the basic bleeds aren't/weren't actually affected by the stat boost previously iirc

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Hello, I'm gonna jump in to try and give some clarity on this stoof.

Firstly - I wanna apologize for the lack of communication on my own behalf, it's been a manic couple of days with a whole lot going on behind the scenes. You'll start to see me and a few of the other devs coming to life now.

If there's anything I've missed in the thread feel free to let me know and I'll try to comment when I can.

Potion Stat Boost

TLDR: This one was short-sighted on my end.

Why we wanted to do it:

We don't feel Invisible buffs/debuffs are great for the game, nor are they good for players that don't already know about their effects.(On a more extreme case : You'd be surprised at how many returning players were getting confused/frustrated when attacking ghost trolls and missing because theyre wearing full melee gear, due to it just being a harsh invisible debuff)

I'd say it's the opposite - it's riskier using the live values because XP rates differ by such an incredibly large margin, and there's so many underlying issues to and methods to cheese the existing system.
When we first addressed XP we had a XP mod for necro of 35-70% ranging with level, however, this just cemented the idea that you had to go to very specific locations because the difference in XP between 2 mobs could differ so greatly.
Players would hit 99 in just a few hours as soon as they could hit a high-end method (I don't think anyone would agree that a new skill should be 'complete' so quickly. Part of what I think made archaeology so great was the real sense of progression and discovery, not turboing through. Had archaeology had a turbo method, players would've felt inclined to do so and ruined the experience)

We _couldve_ used a harsher XP mod, but this had caveats too - (we bring the 2m XP/Hr method down to e.g. 500k.) But now what was originally a 500...

I like there is a choice between the two, but hoping it won’t be like the current tank armor vs power armor dilemma where unless it has a significant effect like Cryptbloom or raids armor, then pretty much power armor in all situations is preferred.

There are more differences between core necro power/tank gear than other combat styles have currently.

Na, his stats don't change it's just a straight heal

The abby demon v dust question is an interesting one, and it goes to show why we restatted monsters in the early/mid game (and is something i want to continue doing)

E.g. Abyssal demons should likely have more HP than they do being such a high-level mob - but being a commonly killed monster would mean they also need drop table adjustments to make up for more HP as you stated.

I don't personally think the existence of a slayer Req on a monster should instantly boost its XP values, because it tends to have benefits (e.g. unique drops / being able to gain slayer XP at the same time)

That being said post-launch, I may look into adding XP mods to some monsters (things that come to mind are things like mammoths that force you into 1v1, or are slightly more awkward to AoE etc.) To make up for the changes (though, they weren't remotely competing with something like abyssal lords previously, they could be in a better spot.)

Essentially the combat XP s...

yea

IIRC you can do as many of each as you want concurrently

That was a bug - the wiki team have been informed and I believe they're updating it.