Sometimes we luck out, where something can be fixed server side.
Other times, we strike out, having issues identifying the bug, developing a fix, or ending up finding more bugs in testing.
Stars aligned for this fix. Couldn't hit it server side, but the issue was identified rather quickly and the fix was straight forward. Team kicked ass, and we absolutely didn't want this to be something that was blocked for the remainder of the season.
Hope you enjoy the remainder of the quest.
Hope to get more updates on investigation for The Lie today.
As noted yesterday, the cause for the bug was identified, but a fix needs to be developed, tested, and go through the certification process.
Don't know if we'll be able to commit to a specific timeline today, but we'll get whatever info we can to you when it's available. Stay tuned to @BungieHelp for official comms.
Bugs suck, plain and simple. I think I can speak for most anyone at Bungie when I say that it hurts to see stuff like this ship. We absolutely want to build amazing experiences from beginning to end, but things just don't fly the right way sometimes.
We're working on improvements internally. We definitely see the bugs shipping and how they're impacting the experience. This isn't a matter of test specifically, mind you. I have to applaud our folks on the amount of bugs that don't ship. This one in particular, we're even having issues reproducing it internally. Sometimes it's tools, sometimes it's timelines, sometimes it's random things we could never have caught in our limited amount of dev time.
Thank you for your service in helping to get the community step done. Hope to get things back on track quickly.
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This is the perfect scenario to request\remind that foundry weapons could fill the gaps that any new seasonal weapons leave and serve as an excellent "general weapon" family that Destiny needs. They don't need amazing stats or cutting edge perk pools either.
Recluse being sunset is fine, but you could add a Veist SMG to Banshee's loot engram so that type of gun isn't gone forever.
This is a pretty good take, in terms of how things could pan out.
The team will indeed create new weapons and exciting loot to earn, while filling other sources of loot with a mix of new and re-issued gear. I would not look at re-issued weapons as the main drive for future content drops, especially paid DLC/Seasons, which is what some replies seem to fear.
not to be confrontational, but, is this confirming that we indeed will see our sunset weapons, like Recluse (as OP mentioned, to keep this example consistent to the thread), recycled back into the game? Isn't that counter-intuitive to enabling sunsetting of weapons?
No. Some weapons will be left to the sunset, while others will be re-issued in future seasons.
In other words, there is no promise for a given weapon to return. Some may come back with new perks or balancing, where others will still be weapons that you like using when running through Strikes, Patrol, or regular Crucible.
Will Pinnacle weapons Be subject to the same treatment as legendaries? Or have more lifespan?
Yes.
Pinnacles and pursuit weapons are legendary weapons, and will be subject to sunsetting. They can still be used in activities that aren't power enabled.
If a lot of loot is level capped for infusion, what happens to existing sources of loot? Will Gambit, Iron Banner, Crucible, etc. get new sets of guns every year or every season?
I'd hate for all gear earned from a source to not be useful in current end-game activities.
We'll have more info on these activities next week. Stay tuned.
I love how they're sunsetting weapons just to say that they're going to reissue some of them later, peak laziness.
"hey, instead of making new cool shit, why don't we just have people go crazy over being able to get recluse again!"
edit: I have no problem with sunsetting weapons. it's a bummer, but I get why it happens. but sunsetting a weapon just to have it return later at the new higher power level is really really shitty. I love my recluse, it's really enjoyable to kill things with, but that's my recluse with all my kills on it and the shader I really like on it. getting another one is just not the same, and it defeats the whole purpose of sunsetting weapons.
if you sunset weapons because of power creep, fine, I get it. if you sunset weapons because of power creep to just re-release them later, then you're just trying to lazily add content to the game and say "hey, we introduced new weapons!" or "do this event for the ikelos shotgun!"
What if we did both, though?
The team absolutely wants to make cool new sh*t. We also understand that players want to see things return. Finding the balance is key.
I would say yes to all the bullet points except the first. Once a season does not feel too frequent.
I guess it depends on execution. Yesterday, we saw a lot of folks saying "Really, another?"
If the timing was a bit different, farther away from Guardian Games (which was a pretty big community event in itself), maybe we would have seen less of this reaction.
They’re gonna give it to us either way.
Something I want to touch on here: Success isn't whether or not you complete the quest - it's how quickly you complete it.
The point of this step wasn't to challenge the community to complete something, and if they didn't, they wouldn't get something. It was to rally everyone to a single event to kick off "The Lie".
The feedback I'm seeing is as follows:
Huh, you sold me. Guess I’ll go for this now.
I love you all
Here's what I'm seeing in terms of feedback. Can't promise any specific changes for the "needs improvement" section, but I can pass along thoughts to the team.
Winners
Needs improvement
So if I'm reading this right it's one Pinnacle/Ritual/Pursuit weapon with three skins to earn per core activity?
I don't hate the idea as much as I thought I would when I first read it. I understand if they feel that this is a good way to save some development time without completely abandoning the Ritual weapons, but I do worry about how they will try to balance a weapon that will be taken into PvP, PvE, and PvPvE.
If the skins are sick I have no complaints, it sounds like it will be a bit more easy to pursue the weapon itself and if I really want the Gambit skin then I have to buckle down and grind that playlist, as opposed to the slog that was Hush.
It's a sustainability thing. We want to pump out weapons and rewards, but we don't want to overburden the team. I've said before, "it's a tricky balancing act" - not only in balancing unique pursuit weapons on top of the slew of weapons for a season or release, but balancing the time of the team. We went from too much to too little, and we hope this solution is a good middle ground. If it's not, we have time to iterate. We have a live game, and can continue to improve season over season.
As a player, I'm excited for this. I might not be earning a specific pursuit gun from each core activity, but that's OK to me. I look back at many of the pinnacle/pursuit weapons that I've earned each season and realize that I don't really use more than one of the three. This way, I get the one pew-pew that I care for, then slap a cosmetic on it if I want to spend the time in strikes earning it.
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There isn't any anger here. Just facts.
Saw some confusion over this quote:
Beginning in Season 12, we will no longer be selling ships, ghost shells, sparrows, or armor ornaments in Eververse that are visually based on themes from Aspirational Activities.
This is in response to feedback on the Red Keep themed cosmetics. There will still be cosmetics in the shop, just not themed to Aspirational Activities.
Read moreRewards in Destiny 2
Hey everyone,
This week’s update is going to look at some of the changes coming to Destiny 2’s rewards. As you know, rewards for your character come from a variety of places: Playlists where you find random folks to play with, aspirational activities like Raids, Trials, and Dungeons where you form up a Fireteam, and even Eververse, where you sling some Silver or Bright Dust back at us for items you want. However, in today’s Destiny 2, the balance of the game’s rewards is not where we want it to be. To be blunt, there isn’t enough pursuit out in the world. We’re going to fix it.
Let’s get to it.
All of this and more is planned for Destiny 2 Year 4:Vanity and Accessory (Ships, ...
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