League of Legends Dev Tracker

Ok. After much work, I think we may have it. If you were experiencing slow down after about 5 min into game, for about 5 min, then try another game. Hopefully, the problem will be gone now.

I'm not sure how visible this post will be on such an old thread, but if you no longer experience this slowdown, then please let me know in a reply. Also, if it does fix it, also let me know in a reply :)

Note: This will not fix other random slowdowns. This is primarily the one on Ryzen CPUs.

We've considered it, I don't think it meaningfully reduces frustration, while sometimes making Yuumi's inputs not function, which makes it feel like your buttons aren't working. As a result, I don't think it's a good change.

This is what we need to resolve first. Long term we want to tune yuumi to be weaker for sophisticated players, so that she can be tuned around her intended skill bracket. These changes are the first step at that.

One of the primary reasons for her effectiveness in high elo is because she can get out of lane too reliably and then hop on a fighter/assassin late game and reduce their counterplay too significantly.

The intention of the changes is so that she is less likely to get out of lane unscathed in high elo, which would directly reduce the frustration as a second order effect (that's the intent at least). The root duration change is to make it so when she gets out of lane, she's not reducing the counterplay by as much.

Thanks for the post. I think there are some good points in here, but there are some core assumptions that we disagree on.

Yuumi's main value to league is that she is a champion that can help a player bring their friend into the game by drastically reducing the importance of one of League's skilltests (positioning), which allows the new player to focus their mental energy elsewhere.

Live Yuumi has 3 main issues: 1. As tuned, she is a Pro Play bound champion 2. Yuumi can be frustrating for some player segments (varies significantly by region X skill bracket) 3. Tends to abandon lane partner later in the game

A few further notes. Each change we make to increase the power of active yuumi (as coined) directly makes it less likely to succeed in hitting the goal for the intended audience (new players), especially when it involves yuumi jumping out in a Teamfight where she can die instantly.

While active yuumi is less frustrating to play against, we can o...

It takes either 90 continuous seconds of no input or standing on the fountain to trigger a remake, which you're warned about at the 60 second mark with a popup. Can you link or DM me your game so we can look at this? If neither of those things occurred and your game was remade anyway, that's a bug we gotta fix!

So I agree that it’s awful balancing for competitive. But in the case of SoloQ, it’s the only logical path forward.

Should Vex or Annie sit at 56% permenantly because they play against mostly melee mids (the most popular class?). Of course not, because everyone will look at Lolalytics and see a winrate way higher than their champion.

Unfortunately we have to balance champions against the average game.

Kirei god

This is a bug and we are looking into it.

Meant Oceanic not Aussie, I did in-fact forget Lawrence was a kiwi LOL

Just carrying on the tradition of claiming NZs stars for ourselves xD

And yes I always made that joke, but technically it's correct which is my favourite kind!

Likely we will do something like: If you don’t have jungle item, you get no cookies.

If that nerfs that strat then yes, I’m unfamiliar with the shaco double jungle.

Yeah to be fair with the cookies, they went through a LOT of code changes (to fix bugs) which introduced functionality pretty late in testing that we weren’t aware of. Intuitively I (like you) would expect 0 cookies without smite so I never tested it personally or asked someone about it, but at any time that could have been inadvertently added and nobody checked. That’s how these bugs (and therefore exploitative gameplay patterns) hit live.

But, just like how we talk about it now, it’s very easily fixable.

That is one way of interpreting. The other way is that we run a live service game that balances around player trends and metas, and spending time trying to anticipate the player behavior of millions of unique users will never result in the same quality of game for players as reacting to the feedback they are giving. If we did only internal testing and ignored what players ACTUALLY did on live, the narrative would be “Riot doesn’t listen to their players” or “Doesn’t Riot play their own game and see that X is OP?”.

It’s a balancing act. We do plenty of internal testing but testing funnel (played by .001% of players) vs testing a common pick (played in 5% of games) is an easy decision.

Great job!

This is known and we have mitigating tactics in mind.

To refer to your point about testing, no we didn’t test funnel extensively. We spend a majority of the preseason dev time on tuning the game for the 99.9%, and when a niche abuse case pops up (like funnel) we ensure we have the levers to fix it when it does. Rather than spend time inefficiently anticipating, testing, and mitigating these strategies pre-ship, we instead observe preseason and make adjustments at 5% the cost.

Maybe I'm just at maximum copium at this point but I'm a big fan of Lost and him being in the C9 hyperbolic time chamber gives me hope for his future.

I think his ceiling is really high, but sadly he's never really proved it at the LCS level and maybe never will.

I'll always cheer for Lawrence though. He's the OG Aussie import for the LCS.

Trinity force deals no damage and should be removed 😢

While we don't officially support playing League on Steam Deck, I am interested in seeing an RPD or two from you :)

Same

"Swag" is what we call it, "merch" was the wrong word

The amount of times I’ve said sh*t like “don’t worry, I’ll tank the speaking portion of the meeting”…I think my brain is broke.