Why don’t you say what will happen ‘before’ the event starts? Rather than say nothing until the day it drops, that would probably solve that issue and save you guys a lot of embarrassment
Uh, thats kind of what I've said?
Why don’t you say what will happen ‘before’ the event starts? Rather than say nothing until the day it drops, that would probably solve that issue and save you guys a lot of embarrassment
Uh, thats kind of what I've said?
What about the Music Packs? Will they just be gone forever?
All 30 event items (the 24 in the Packs and the 6 in the Event Shop) are "Event Limited" which means they will return at a future date. We're don't have an exact date atm, but "Event Limited" items are eligible to return 6 months after their release.
To answer your question further down - these music packs won't be in S3 Battle Pass. We try to make Battle Pass all fresh new content (with the exception of the core Apex Packs rewards).
$20 is a lot better then gambling with those Crown Packs. They listened, they heard, and hopefully the next event will be improved. Atleast they are communicating with us. Probably why they didn't respond so quickly because of so much backlash. I like Respawn. I respect them. Thanks for the update!
We've said it before, but we will not engage with temper tantrums, and personal attacks or virtriolic threads are completely unacceptable. We took a look in the mirror this week (lol - thanks for all the attacks guys) and decided we hadn't met up obligations and are making changes because we believe in our approach.
I've been in the industry long enough to remember when players weren't complete ass-hats to developers and it was pretty neat. I forged a bunch of long lasting relationships from back then. Would be awesome to get back there, and not engaging with toxic people or asking "how high" when a mob screams "jump" is hopefully a start.
EA said in their earnings call at the end of July that Apex was getting 8-10 million players per week during season 2.
/u/psilty is correct
They're coming out and basically saying they f**ked up. If they were to do this again, they would lose a huge amount of players. I don't think this will happen again.
Not sure if this is what you mean - but in reality the Iron Crown event has been a success, both with revenue and player engagement. Our numbers are up across the board.
This was not a decision made in any way other than to fix the broken promise we made to everyone at launch about providing choice on how players can get items. This doesn't mean every item is available for grind or purchase or Apex Pack - but providing ONLY Apex Packs for the Iron Crown skins was a misstep on our part.
Messaging for Expectations?
What in the name of Corporate Buzzwords is this?
"We need our Apex players to think outside the box, to find synergy, for our stakeholders."
Happy to clarify - all the messaging about Iron Crown before it launched failed to talk at all about how to obtain the skins we were showing off, and based off previous events being a different structure and scope the whiplash of seeing the Iron Crown event did not help anything. In general, just trying to say that we know we did not communicate clearly enough what to expect, and we will do better on that in the future.
This was 100% planned from the start. And its basically $20 for a single legendary skin -_-
As mentioned in-game and on the PlayApex.com post about the Iron Crown event - we were planning on putting these skins in the store eventually (think months, not weeks), but putting them in the store during the event was not on the table.
Ya, this damage control is still f**king horseshit lmao
Call it what you want - but we didn't hold to our promise we set early on and are doing what we can to make it right. As for skin pricing, we have run promotions on skins and have found an almost zero uplift on sales numbers. The reality is that the percentage of people who actually purchase items is incredibly low and price changes do not have enough of an affect to change that. We run analytics and stats all the time to ensure we're riding the right balance, so I'm not saying price points can't change in the future - but for the time being the change we're making is to provide the Iron Crown Legendary skins in the rotating store so that the Apex Packs aren't the only way to obtain those skins.
I mean, they can not make all the skins from the event available for free by playing.
You must understand that. They need to create revenue from these events.
This.
We'd love it if the universe allowed a way for us to provide every piece of content for free, but until that happens we're going to have to charge for some portions of the stuff we make. We continue to put a hardline stance on anything gameplay related, though, and will not require players to buy anything that affects gameplay.
this is definitely a change for the better but I am still super hesitate to buy from the shop now, whos to say this isnt gonna happen again with EA holding respawn and this game by the balls?
By all means, vote with your wallet. Reddit/Twitter/etc. are really bad places for getting real data. We get tons of information from the actual live game being played by tens of millions of people that informs us way more than you would imagine. We are honestly trying to operate this game as best as possible. If you aren't happy with what we're providing, let us know.
It certainly feels like you’re tryna squeeze every last dime out of us...
We'll leave that to other games that do things like provide methods to pay for power. We are not a hugely monetizing game - we just need to make enough money to keep the game going and make more stuff for everyone. When we decided to make Apex Legends a free-to-play game it was imperative that free-only players still can get access to all gameplay while also having the chance at earning the coolest looking cosmetics.
why didnt you do this right from the start like with the beast from the hunt event? you could prevent so much backlash 🤷♂️
There's a whole host of decisions that get made for any event - and this event was designed differently. We screwed up by not providing agency to you guys in how you obtain cool stuff. We didn't uphold our end of the deal that we set out with at launch, so changes are coming.
Remember to not start sucking their dicks, they probably planned this.
Edit: what happened to all those posts talking about exactly this?
Hell no. We're humans, you know, and we will make mistakes.
Hey everyone,
At launch we made a promise to players that we intend to do monetization in a way that felt fair and provided choice to players on how they spent their money and time. A core decision during development of Apex Legends was that we wanted to make a world class battle royale game - in quality, depth, progression, and important for today’s conversation - how we sell stuff. With the Iron Crown event we missed the mark when we broke our promise by making Apex Packs the only way to get what many consider to be the coolest skins we’ve released*.*
We’ve heard you and have spent a lot of time this week discussing the feedback and how we structure events in the future, as well as changes that we will make to Iron Crown. To get right into it, here are the changes we are making:
This game includes optional in-game purchases of virtual currency that can be used to acquire virtual in-game items, including a random selection of virtual in-game items.
Hey everyone,
At launch we made a promise to players that we intend to do monetization in a way that felt fair and provided choice to players on how they spent their money and time. A core decision during development of Apex Legends was that we wanted to make a world class battle royale game - in quality, depth, progression, and important for today’s conversation - how we sell stuff. With the Iron Crown event we missed the mark when we broke our promise by making Apex Packs the only way to get what many consider to be the coolest skins we’ve released.
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