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Read moreDamage done to revs forged shield doesn’t count towards evo or overall damage, is that a bug?
Bug.
Thanks for the feedback, it is really appreciated. Know I'm not qualified with game design like at all but could you maybe add a larger hitbox when you're in the lift similar to revenants new shield like a grav bubble or something? The largest complaint about horizon is how difficult it is to shoot her when she's in the lift which is why it comes across one sided and she can heal easy. This would still provide her with the same utility whilst settling a pretty big pain point people have with her kit.
Yeah, that's the pain point we're feeling too - it's a really good callout. Hopefully we can make that a little better soon!
Why the hell did you guys nerf him already? Not just talking about the superglide thing, you can't even climb a small ledge while holding his tactical now. I hope it's a bug because if it's not, it's the most lazy, disruptive "fix". You can't even charge it up while in a zipline or going up a jumptower because if you do, you just get launched without warning.
It's a bug. Not intentional
Read moreWe do the same for riding ziplines or taking jump pads too. Yes, they are Ultimates - but they are deployed abilities in the world and we consider their utility differently than how we control
You can neither heal nor shoot well on ziplines. You can barely shoot on jumppads, but you can heal. Those are ultimates.
Now horizon's gravity lift is a tactical and she can heal, shoot and ult during it and use it multiple times? Don't you think that's a bit misbalanced?
if we limited your ability to heal, use weapons, throw grenades/abilities... the lift would feel pretty one dimensional.
Just as one-dimensional as any other movement tactical is. Taking height with your entire team is strong enough alone.
Allowing the player to use weapons/meds or abilities, gives agency and play potential not just to Horizon, but anyone who uses the lift - making it a dynamic element on the field.
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With regards to the deployed abilities - I wasn't suggesting you could shoot or heal from a zipline, merely that we evaluate them on their own ( the jump pad has different rule sets than the zipline )
That being said, we're totally aware of the frustrations around Horizon. She's often a hot topic in our balance meetings, and as stated in this and other posts we are looking at options - but, at this time, removing item/ability/weapon usage is not how we'd like to address it for now.
what was the teams inspiration behind revenants new look
Responded to something similar here: Rev's new look
What was I THINKING? You're right, I bet Revenant doesn't have dental insurance huh :(
Hammond never sprung for the premium coverage.
When reworking revs kit was it difficult trying to adjust him from more of a team based legend ( the totem and the silence orbs) to a more lore accurate self centred legend (the shadow shields and pounce) and if possible could we get some details about possible earlier builds of what his kit went through during his development before the team settled on what we currently have?
It was difficult. From a design perspective it did irk us that he would lose an ability that benefited his team.
But it fit Revenant's character overall, and we felt it was worth the exploration.
We've mentioned some of the early prototypes in other threads.
Silence shockwave on the pounce, wall running, the 1v1 Shadow Realm duel. We even tried a version where Revenant could self-revive himself at any time by destroying his current body ( even when not downed ) and emerging from his totem as a shadow to reposition. It was cool, and powerful, and on-brand - but everyway we spun it, it just became a frustrating element to deal with after Revenant had been knocked, and pre-knock just always ended up feeling like a Wraith tactical - so we scrapped it for something that would keep him more IN the fight, rather than something that would only help him if he already LOST the fight
I was hoping that you would give the shadow teammate revive animation from shadow royal to Revenant, it would give more character to him and would allow people to appreciate the skin they have equipped , is it a difficult process to do?
This is a pretty cool idea. Definitely something to consider and ensure fits within the lore of the non-Shadow Royale world to be right for Apex!
Was the ability to cancel the leap animation by sliding off an edge/supergliding intentional or coincidental, and will it be changed? I think it's really good the way it is, but I'm curious what the team thinks about it.
It was not intentional and we're actively looking to fix it.
Revenant's new movement has a lot of power on its own, and part of its internal counterplay revolves around not allowing weapons to come out until landing.
We're hoping to shore up exploits to that get around this intended design.
I'm loving Revenant Reborn but I do miss his silence ability. What if they gave it to back to Revenant as a silence shockwave when he hits the ground after using his tactical. Would that be broken or nah? Thoughts?
His pounce originally DID have a Silence shockwave when landing and we had it in playtests for a while.
The problem was that it made it feel like you HAD to hit an enemy with it to be successful, and anything else was kind of a waste.
And by encouraging people to land directly on enemies, it often forced them into bad positions where they'd just get killed.
We wanted the Shadow Pounce to be used more creatively, and give the play more agency rather than prescribing a pattern that would likely get them killed, so we backed away from the Silence and stuck with the more pure form of the movement. The intent of the ability became much more clear, and players were free to use it to dive, reposition or reach walls to climb which was much more successful overall
Plus will there be any new skins based off his new model added to his already pre existing Legendary old skin models plus loving the new rev minus the new update mantle bug that come out with new update
The plan is for any new skins to be based off his new model.
You'll be able to use these alongside any old skins you've already unlocked.
- whether any are coming out in the next update or a future one I don't actually know.
Are there any plans to undone the mantle bug that happened with revenant with the new update because before the recent update revs tact+mantle together was very useful and helpful for fight and recovering from fights and I and everyone would love to see it return
The mantle bug is unintentional and will be fixed.
Will Revenant get new skins based off of his new model, such as grey to purple tier skins, or will those stay for his old model?
All new skins will be based on Revenant's new model.
The current skins he has from his old model will remain unchanged - so if you like the old look or one of its variants, they will still be there.
Whether we add in additional skins like those found in the common and rare tiers for the new model is TBD, but I'm not aware of any plans to do so yet.
I wish his recolor heirloom looked different, even in terms of recolors- it's SO similar to the original. :( I love his new emote though, and overall the rework seems successful and enjoyable, so good job on that part! <3 Any chance y'all are gonna fix his funny teeth though?
Booking an Apex dentist ...in THIS economy!?
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