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Likely that they are picking bad fights, you aren't following up, or tanks are building dps or not counter building the other team.

Tanks have always been in a rather strong spot, but they are often overlooked by the reddit player base because they are not as flashy or likely to get kills to solo carry. But consistently tanks have been shown to have a strong winrate and having one on your team is a good predictor for winning a game.

I'm glad people are enjoying it. I just watched u/excoundrel's video of him playing it. One thing we forgot to mention in the patch notes is that her Fury generation is not paused when dead.

Dragons promised long ago to never slay a target dummy.

The problem is that before this patch it was optimal to place a Pink Ward and then swap to Yellow Trinket so that you had the most vision coverage (because you could have 2 yellow wards and a Pink Ward out at the same time). So it creates an unintuitive pattern for optimizing vision that was never intended.

This is really about consistency, as we don't want Pink Wards used as a way to maintain vision while also using other trinkets to gain more vision (yellow) or remove vision (red). It has its role of controlling vision in an area, generally objectives, not as an enhancement of the other vision trinkets.

Yes, they are enhanced in 1>2>3>4 order.

Thanks! We like players like you too.

The problem is that before this patch it was optimal to place a Pink Ward and then swap to Yellow Trinket so that you had the most vision coverage (because you could have 2 yellow wards and a pink ward out at the same time). So it creates an unintuitive pattern for optimizing vision that was never intended.

This is really about consistency, as we don't want Pink Wards used as a way to maintain vision while also using other trinkets to gain more vision (yellow) or remove vision (red). It has its role of controlling vision in an area, generally objectives, not as an enhancement of the other vision trinkets.

Jax doesn't deal much damage with abilities, and it all comes from his basic attacks. He would need to DRASTICALLY reduce his basic attack damage to monsters and that would end up feeling much worse.

It's something we talked about doing, but it gets really clunky to have a different drop off rates depending on what you attacked. They would also have to drop off incredibly fast, and would more likely than not keep him as a god tier jungler for skilled Jax players while only nerfing him for the rest of the player base (when he needed nerfs at all elos, but especially higher elos).

We do expect this to hurt his first clear a bit, but after getting his ultimate he turns out fine. This is not going to dumpster him as many people fear, and in a world where it hits a bit to hard we can look at giving him some jungle modifiers. But again even a massive drop in winrate (like 5%+) would mean he is still fine or even still strong.

Getting half the stacks from monsters is how it has been, it ends up not mattering because he can keep his stacks between camps. It also makes the UI tracking look very goofy with how many segments you need.

This is exactly it. These nerfs have very little to do with Icons but rather Jax's impact (in solo que) as a jungler.

Basically Jax was in a fine spot in Baron lane but crazy good as a jungler, we tried several times to nerf his jungle without impacting his Baron and couldn't find anything that went far enough. Thus we are trying this passive nerf. Ideally we want Jax to function in both positions (but we don't like the afk farming Jax play style) but that has been tricky to maintain, so while we expect this to be a rather large nerf to Jungle Jax, he needed it. This is the best option to maintain his Baron Lane, and bring Jungle to a much more reasonable level.

The 4th version, the one you are talking about, had some benefits, but it had some major clarity issues, pushed the map change back further than we would like (it kind of forced the map change after the 2nd Dragon's death), and the scoring system was a bit funky (why is one dragon worth one point and another worth 2?)

As for the 3.3 version

You will never see more than 3 Elemental Dragons in a single match, so only one team can stack them for the Dragon Slayer buff.

Initial Spawn time is at 5 minutes, and I I think it has a 5 minute respawn (though I might be miss remembering details).

Baron and Rift Herald are unchanged.

This is correct, it is granted after a team slays their second dragon.

I think there is some confusion, the current live Elder Dragon's buff is permanent, but in Elemental Rift, the buff will expire if the player dies or if time runs out.

Elder Dragon will respawn as a way to get the buff back or for the other team to claim it if they can hold out.

Elemental Dragons do not repeat, you can get all 3 Elemental Dragons in a single game.

Elder Dragon does respawn, I don't remember off hand how long the buff lasts.

Your first example is correct, if teams are slaying dragons fast enough all 3 Elemental dragons will spawn. The only thing that would stop this from happening is the Elder Dragon spawning and interrupting that, similar to how Baron can stop the second Rift Herald spawn.

I hear you on wanting a less stressful game, and we are hoping that these changes still achieve that too. Stress was is one of the big strikes against the Bo3 version.

A team getting all 3 dragons should be a rare occerance, and is really there to end a game if a team has been dominating the entire time. Elder spawning at 19 minutes is there as the big-ticket objective for ending games acting as a comeback mechanic if a team manages to hold on or the game-ender for a team having trouble closing out the game.

I wouldn't worry too much about Wild Rift becoming a brawler. While many players often pick fights that isn't the only way to win, and as players become better at the game they get a bett...

You might not mind waiting but I see a new thread every few days saying "when is X coming to Wild Rift" now imagine knowing it doesn't even have a chance of showing up for a year, then how it feels if the champion you were wishing for isn't even listed.

Your right there are things we could do to mitigate that, but I don't think that is a better (and imo worse) experience. As for a patch with 3 junglers you are right I expect that when that patch hits the jungle role would see a spike in popularity, but then there is the better part of the year where it sinks back down to normal pickrates.

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I'm always happy to chat, and I often check out threads like this. Shen is an interesting one because we didn't originally list him as a jungler, but added him after seeing his performance.

ok so if you are talking about someone who only, or whose primary role is the jungle then you are right it has been a while (worth us considering). But that doesn't mean we haven't had any junglers, in fact every major patch for a while has had at least one who can jungle.

I'm not sure I understand by "And with releasing by role and/or archetype, tank, mage, assassin for example, I think you’re able to expand the meta around that role and/or archetype’s “pick meta”."

While we like the idea of themed patches matching all the champions to a single role has its drawbacks. One big one would be how long players would need to wait between releases, if we had 5-6 role/position-focused patches that's somewhere around 10-12 months before the next set comes around. And that doesn't take into account things like "X champion isn't Y role", like what spurred this discussion.

We also have events that can involve a region, theme, or aesthetic that wouldn't work if we rel...