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Hahaha if only I could, I definitely would. :')
Plz add Mountain Dew shapes too. TY.
Hahaha if only I could, I definitely would. :')
Read moreI think what's happening is redditors seem to have a different perspective on the whole Udyr thing.
It seems from a lot of redditors perspective they've been wanting an Udyr VU for years now and it's always fallen on deaf ears now that something is finally being done towards Udyr's visuals (his VFX) it ignites the issue of his VU again and how frustrated people are that he's been left in this state for years with no change in sight.
And when they see all that's being changed is a simple (not tyring to diminish your work <3 using simple in comparison to a full VU) VFX update they get frustrated all over again and see it as just polishing a turd, you can polish it all day long but at the end of the day it's still a turd and nothing is being done about it.
Is it your fault that there is no VU planned for Udyr? of course not but unfortunatley as a representative of Riot regardless of your position you face the force of it.
In my opinion overall your chan...
The whole thing surprised me tbh, but I definitely understand it. And even better now thanks to you. Really wish I (we) could have done more, but the scope was sadly smaller than most seemed to expect.
It seems like you have probably never had a job that wasn't clocking in and clocking out. Most people on salary are given tasks and they take however long it takes to do those. Sometimes you have downtime or a lull while you are waiting for someone else to get something to you. Working spontaneously on something during that time instead of goofing off on Reddit would be a "passion project".
Thank you for understanding and explaining it so well.
That would be awesome. I don't have skin in the game, I played udyr a few times and enjoyed him, but he's not my main or anything. I did love the pattern on the old shield though. Everything else makes sense. The Phoenix fire changing to reflect when the damage is done definitely makes sense. But like the other user said, the pattern on the shield looked cool because it matched the shell.
I can try to bring that pattern back a bit.
Tank Fiddlesticks W Minion healing: 25 >>> 15%
Honest question, will this actually be enough to address Tank Fid?
While it will make his laning harder I don't see how it affects the aftermath, it seems like building tank will still work since they didn't hit his base damages or % health damage, just that he will have to play safer in lane to get through.
We found minion healing to be a super sensitive lever for Fiddle top/mid to be successful in lane when balancing him before release. It's not gonna kill the playstyle but his lane will be weaker and he won't be as good at just negating all the damage you to do him.
You can add some doritos here and there, reddit loves memes.
I actually kept the same kind of shape just to make sure we never truly lost the doritos feel.
I mean making the animations bland obviously isn't gonna be taken well. The old W and R both had way more flair to them than just a bubble and an orange cone. Just like Blackbelt Udyr now having the bear stance model while in tiger and turtle (which hopefully is a bug ?).
I think people have nothing against small visual effect updates just that "dumbing down" animations and removing what makes them unique on a champ that already doesn't have much going on doesn't seem great.
The blackbelt udyr is a bug, yes.
I'll simply disagree that they are more "bland", but you are free to believe that.
How dare you not be the ultimate developer, go back to learning to do 3D models while practicing for voice acting, then for your writing classes and coding training!
If only days were 128h-long
Ok well does it not bother you that you basically did the equivalent of putting glitter on a rusted out beetle and entered it into a car show? While making the vfxs did you bug anyone else to fix and improve what you couldn't?
The issue is that we never set the expectations for this update as a complete VGU. We always said it was just updating his VFXs to improve clarity. We ALL know he needs a VGU. Sadly doing these take a long time and a lot of people. Updating VFXs can take time, but only requires one or two people at most.
I think in this case people wanted a large cake to eat, and you tried your best to help out in the mean time by sharing some of the frosting. Sadly some people are too hungry to appreciate what they are getting. I dont think you should let it get to you too much. If anything for next time try to gauge the audience a bit closer, as the udyr players are super on the savage side. Like I said before I appreciate the work your putting in and I hope you didn't get too discouraged from what others have said.
Its also important to separate yourself from the work that you believe is correct and must be done (such as clarity for the opponent on abilities) vs what a portion of the leaguw audience wanted (a complete vgu that you couldn't provide on your own).
That seems like a very good summary of the situation.
Please save your sanity and leave this thread. There is nothing but ignorance in here.
I care too much to leave. I must understand what went wrong.
'Passion project' is a meaningless buzz term when you are using it to refer to work you are being hired and paid to perform. That, in combination with your claim that you're doing this in your 'free time', is just straight up misleading and embarrassing.
We all know you're getting paid for this, and if you're not, well there's something seriously wrong at Riot
Some people can be passionate about stuff at their workplace and just... you know... do stuff on their own to try and help?
I get its a passion project but shouldn't that passion have been put into his model? It goes back to the days when riot was just 5 guys in a basement 13 years ago. It might be time for an update
I..... I can't do models? I'm a VFX Artist. I do VFXs.
It must feel like a bummer trying to help out a character on the side. Makes it feel like its better to just leave a character alone than have to deal with people constantly complaining about any new additions. Thank you for the hard work!
This is exactly how I feel right now. Not sure I'll make more of these if this is the reception it gets.
Okay so two things here..
You are telling us Riot employees are working on VFX updates in their 'free time', without being paid (and yes, that's what 'free time' means, if you're being paid for it it's not 'free time' is it?), and you expect us to believe this?
Assuming we do believe this, which is frankly pretty ridiculous, you're now telling us that a company worth over a billion dollars is not paying their employees for work implemented into the game because they are 'passion projects'?
Lastly, let's say this is all true, VFX updates have no influence on future VGU's, does that not strike you as just plain incompetent? Why bother doing an extremely minor update to a champion before a major one? it just doesn't make any logical sense, and neither does your response
We've always said these updates are passion projects. It's always been the case. We do this because we care, that's literally all there's to it.
Sorry if it doesn't make sense, I guess?
And this somehow disqualifies their (and my) opinion that it ultimately feels like there isn't a point to it? You can add all the buzzwords and reasoning you want to it but they're such minor and somewhat questionable changes, and over the board they're not even all better (turtle stance)
As I've mentioned countless times in multiple platforms, including on every single previous VFX update boards post
I'm sorry man, but not everyone is going to notice, even if you feel like you're saying it a million times.
I absolutely do not feel these are useless, but you have the right to your opinion and I respect it.
Do not get discouraged from the grumpy reddit comments RiotSirhaian, people don’t know the inner workings of how the design team operates. Just remember that we appreciate all of these improvements!
Oh well that's too late, I am highly discouraged already.
his new W looks so much worse, it's just a wierd green sphere instead of the hexagonal one we have now.
I'll see if I can slightly tweak it. As mentioned in another comment, this is a very simple damage shield with no other effects, so we want it to stay what it is: simple.
Giving VFX to a champion that needs a VGU. Feels like an absolute waste of time and money.
He absolutely needs a VGU, I agree. But these updates are personal passion projects aimed at improving gameplay clarity and reducing overall noise in the game. They do not influence any plan we might or might not have for future updates or VGUs.
Dislike the change to the shield. The hexes were like a turtle shell pattern. Now it's just some lame... full coloured green sphere with brief hexes
I'll see if I can tweak the shield a bit. This is a very simple damage shield with no special effects, so we're trying to keep it simple, as it should be.