You should focus on premades of scripters, scripter gets banned sooner or later, but their premades end up high above their real elo and its nightmare to have them in team.
There're some mechanisms in place that will punish people who are obviously boosting their account by grouping with someone Vanguard identifies as cheating :)
So, if I already have Vanguard because I also play VALORANT, am I going to have to do another install of Vanguard for LoL? Or is the Vanguard endpoint the same for both VALORANT and LoL?
Nah, if you have it for VAL you have it for League. :)
I upvote for the funny read.
Hopefully this actually curves the issue and doesn't create a false positive.
We do talk about false positives a bit in there but if there ever is, we'll obviously fix it, and ideally also tell you about it if it does happen. The threshold for triggering a false positive reversal is extremely low because we never want to take that risk of being unsure. We want to be as transparent as possible so that Vanguard and the team behind it has your trust and maintains it.
We're also about to be a lot more active in engaging with people claiming that they are a "false positive". We generally review almost all the ones that we see across various platforms when we can and the vast majority are either sadly not telling the truth, or simply just compromised accounts.
Even if I used PC for non Vanguard things, wouldn’t it still boot aslong as those applications and hooks are closed and not running? Or would I still need to restart etc
Yeah the article says it better than I would, so I'll just quote the bit that speaks directly to this.
Why is it always on?
Vanguard is not really "running all the time." The driver loads at boot, but nothing is making calls to it, and there's no network connectivity until you run one of Riot's games. It's literally just sitting there (menacingly), so that it can attest to the fact that nothing's happened between Windows loading and the game starting that would break the operating system.
When you launch League, the Vanguard client contacts the driver to confirm that it thinks everything is 100%, and if so, you receive a valid anti-cheat session and may connect to the game server. Instructions from the client then start enabling features within the driver to watch for things that might tamper with the signed League process and prevent them. You can always disable the driver whenever you'd like-you'll just need a fr...
Read moreRead moreQ: What if I'm having technical issues with Vanguard?
These days, Vanguard suffers from a lot of attribution bias, and the majority of bugs we see actually come from external sources that are difficult to lock down. One of the largest perpetrators recently has been the distribution of pirated software that toggles a registry option ("DevOverrideEnable") and allows "different" versions of key Windows files to be loaded into all running processes. Now, we can't say exactly what your intentions would be for doing something like this (wink), but what we can say is that Vanguard doesn't like when corrupted windows files are loaded into VALORANT—we use a great many of them to do tampering checks ourselves. We'd also recommend that you be careful what you turn off windows defender for, because it's doing what it says on the tin (defending windows).
Anyways, issues can arise, but please submit a ticket. We'll get you sorted.
I might have ...
There'll be a modal going out in 14.8 (currently on PBE fwiw) that will check your PC to let you know if it's ready for Vanguard. If you get an alert that something isn't right, there's troubleshooting steps and a player support link that can help you get things set up in time for launch, which is currently planned for 14.9.
Thanks for your service Packman. Waka Waka
I'm sorry, did you mistype 14.8 and 14.9 or am I having a stroke?
He did mistype. We made fun of him for it. It's 14.8 and 14.9 :)
So how do you disable Vanguard when you boot up your computer for non-League purposes? Is there an option to easily do it now?
Yeah you can just right click it in your system tray and select Exit Vanguard. It'll warn you that if you want to play a game that requires Vanguard you'll have to restart your PC - you just click "Ok" on that prompt and it's off.
I am still very sceptical about this and will not update the game for a few weeks to see how it will work out and what experience will other players have.
Honestly pretty based and understandable.
Hope to see you back after the dust settles
Please tell me I don't have to upgrade to Win 11
Nope you won't have to upgrade to Win 11!
The popup to help make sure you're ready for Vanguard will go live with 14.8 so you'll be able to double check and ensure you're good for 14.9.
With its device fingerprinting, Vanguard also gives us a renewed opportunity to sink teeth into boosting, smurfing, and account compromise. We'll be able to revoke rewards boosters didn't deserve, get smurfs to their proper rating faster, and maybe even invalidate "unfair" premades. Ranked statistics won't be as poisoned by scripters, facilitating easier balancing of high risk-and-reward champions, and games ruined by cheaters can eventually be "undone," returning LP to those affected.
This kinda huge
This is something we're very excited to leverage as it helps the overall ecosystem even beyond reduced cheating
1/10 master+ games having scripters in them is crazy
Even I was a little skeptical about the "dire need" for it until I heard that number internally. The second we heard it from the anti cheat team we were like "Okay that goes in the article" lol
I am still very sceptical about this and will not update the game for a few weeks to see how it will work out and what experience will other players have.
That sounds like a very reasonable take
Whoever wrote this should get a raise. Really funny to read.
Phillip is one of a kind :)
I'm glad you're having a good time! I also find the game lately to be the most fun I've had since S4 when I started. (and yes I'm going to just ignore the whole 13 accounts thing...)
Oh God, seeing Riot in front of your name is terrifying. For those who missed the ama five years ago, I met Norak very early in leagues life when he was a cheeky little Aussie kid. Now he's just a cheeky little Aussie dude. To answer your question, Peter Jackson. 🍿
I'm sure I'm taking the bait here, but can't help it...
Peter Jackson, the film director, is your favourite Australian?
Have you ever considered a ~5 normal draft game minimum before queueing for ranked? I think it'd help the ARAM/bot gamers get placed more accurately
https://twitter.com/RiotPhroxzon/status/1771644991120789627
yeah I talked about it here
I've seen 20 or so threads like this and I've yet to see a single person that plays normals before playing ranked who has been incorrectly placed after the change to fix those seeding issues (~early feb). We've also done some comprehensive data analysis on this.
Having said that, getting ARAM and bot games players in their first ranked games is a priority for us (it's currently not considered in seeding due to how different those modes are). It is not trivial to fix this for some reasons that aren't particularly relevant, so will take us some time, but we agree it's a problem.
The unfortunate reality is that there are about as many people who are alt accounts that are trying to ego boost themselves as there are new players that go through this ARAM/bot flow, which is why we haven't changed the initial starting injection point. We could move it, but we'd just be trading one issue for another (eg. why is there a 90% winrate player stomping their way through my silve...
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We believe we've fixed it forward facing, but we can't fix them retroactively :( We've investigated, it's just not realistically possible at this time
Howdy friendo!
The suggestions are based on popular build orders and their success rates. On your champion people most commonly built these items after the items you had already purchased. The Good Against section is layered on top of the suggestions to help give context about why you might build one versus the other.
Hope that helps, and good luck on the rift.
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