Eco

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13 Dec

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Originally posted by TravUK

pollution is already a core challenge with real consequences

Ehhh not really. I think it needs to be dialed way up. I know people who have hundreds of hours in the game, myself included, who can count the number of times the sea level has risen on one hand, for example.

And how often did you play on a server with a world size that supported the player count and that did nothing against the problem? E.g. comparable to the official servers, not going beyond 1km² if there isn't at least more than hundred people, staying on 0.52 km² if its notable less than 50?

Also, it's kinda not the goal of Eco to have the world flood - data for official servers suggests the occurance is of a frequency as we expect it. We are not however responsible for the configuration of other servers - it's understandable and fully fine if those value other needs higher, but it has never been a secret or unknown that the world capacity needs to fit for pollution to pose any threat.


12 Dec

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Originally posted by JigglyFeather

I agree that all mechanisms are in place, but it doesn't feel that way when playing the game. I have spent over 1k hours playing Eco (bought this game in December 2023) and have found that pollution is just a thing that happens on the side IF someone is polluting deliberately.

To expand, what I mean by "Yes! – Make pollution a core challenge with real consequences." is that you would have to put in a SIGNIFICANT amount of effort to have no effect on the environment as the game goes on. At the moment, you don't need to do anything because in order to cause any serious harm to the planet someone has to deliberately pollute and overproduce. And even if such player exists, they get banned for doing so disregarding that this IS the 'core challenge' of the game.

I may be playing on the wrong servers or bought the game at the wrong time (when pollution was nerfed) but that's my experience. What's hard to quantify in Eco is because based on the server peop...

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That's exactly what I was saying - you are likely playing a server that isn't using fitting configuration for their player count. We've been constantly repeating and it's noted on the wiki that the ecologic part of Eco only works when the capacity of the world for handling pollution is in balance with the player count, e.g. mostly the server having chosen a fitting world size for the audience.

That unfortunately is not the case for many servers, as many communities value a higher space higher and opt for large servers despite lower player numbers. When the world size is selected fittingly for the player count pollution absolutely does play a role without anyone needing to pollute on purpose. That is well visible on many of the official server cycles, multiple per year ending in a flooded world. White Tiger requires laws to restrict pollution levels, otherwise it would drown just as well - it's a constant heated topic there, as the measures that tend to be taken are restrict...

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The question is a bit odd as it seems to be missing context, as pollution is already a core challenge with real consequences and can be handled with systems like courts and laws when servers use the correct settings for their player amount, which barely any do.

I nontheless voted "Yes! - Make pollution a core challenge with real consequences." as the next minor Update happens to contain changes to those mechanics making them harder and trying to automatically adjust some things when servers were not configured correctly for the player count.

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
When pressing ESC -> World Settings just turn off the checkbox.

11 Dec

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
You have been told where you can inquire about your issue in your first thread and as far as I understood you seemingly already did. Any relevant information you may need can be acquired there.

Our steam forums are however not the correct place for that and our zero tolerance policy applies here as well as per our rules: ... Read more
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Originally posted by NiceGuy: I did not know this, is there a timetable when this will hit the servers? At least something like in 6 month or 2 years...😀

Unfortunately I can't provide an ETA. I can say that the reason for the rework is that the system is very limited from a technical standpoint and doesn't support more in-depth design goals well. It's probably not news for anyone that for most talents there is a clear choice and that they're not very interesting.

Most of the current talents, including WIP ones, may not be part of the new system. Instead it is intended to provide ways around specializing further in professions (including such that have no selectable specialty, like transporting) by providing benefits ... Read more

10 Dec

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You need to set EnableAdminUI in Civics.eco and then open the Federation and untick the "Requires child settlements" checkbox. /nosetreqs doesn't apply there.

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Originally posted by Sm91cm5leU9mQmVpbmc=: of course it not official and not maintained, but why image called "strangeloopgames/eco-game-server" :steamfacepalm: btw

command: ["./EcoServer", "--nogui", "--username=*username*", "--password=*password*"] * - just a mark

Because we created the docker container for our internal use and just published it for experienced users to potentially make use of it as-is, as it's there anyway. The respective additions you noted have been communicated on Steam forums, in Discord and can be requested from our support if necessary. We are also fine with the community creating and ... Read more
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
There is a full rework of the talent system ongoing, hence the old talents are not being worked on anymore.

09 Dec

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Originally posted by Deeevud

If you manage to find the Jingo discord, I've been screenshotting everyone's build every season for the 17 we've been running (assuming it's more than a box!). There's some real gems in there.

Edit: I'm not sure if discord links are allowed, since someone avoided posting a link and someone else just went for it, but here it is: https://discord.gg/DCsGb4zETx

That's no problem, only thing that is not acceptable is server ads as posts or server ads in comments when the OP wasn't actually looking for servers in their post.


08 Dec

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Originally posted by JigglyFeather

"getting settlements into a state that actively rewards collaboration with other towns towards the greater goal" - I would add that you have to make people want to/incentivize work towards this greater goal. Nobody cares about the fake meteor or the eco-system if it doesn't affect them directly, just like in real life. So why make Eco like real life? People often play video games to escape reality and experience something new. How about a different goal?

I personally bought this game because I wanted to play as a bad actor and force the water levels to rise and cause mayhem. I may not be the typical player but from my experience many people thought the same. We can be the counterweight that adds to the difficulty of the game, perhaps extending the time required to finish a round. So give us the tools to do that, therefore towns and countries will be incentivized to do something about it.

The treatment I get every time I bring this up as a goal in a server is "You're...

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I'm not sure if you actually read my post, as what I have been saying is that there is already sufficient difficulty (as in too much) - there is no need for an increase in it in the social matters.

The other part of your post seems to be a very generalized premise I cannot agree with, neither does noone in real life care nor do people in Eco not care. In the opposite the successful shooting of the meteor is the main and unfortunately often only goal the majority of players pursues and failure in preserving the world regularly leads to mass exodus of people from a server that feel they have lost when sea level rises and poses inconvenience to them.

Eco is also intentionally a game abstracting from real life and supposed to allow reflection back on that. That will always be limited in effectiveness, as in opposite to a game you just cannot leave in the real world.

If players already have issues organizing despite that having major benefits in the important soc...

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Post has been priorly approved, no reports for Server Ads necessary.

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Yes, after deleting the file a new world needs to be generated.
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
These containers were once used internally and are provided as-is without support or warranty. So the "official" in it is limited to that we still build them, but they are not maintained. As far as I know there is no environment variables for these inputs.

06 Dec

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Originally posted by MKorny

Let's hope exhaustion works properly soon

We're not aware of any issues with it - it's being successfully used on servers like MightyMoose as well.


05 Dec

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Originally posted by CryptolockerMD

I would prefer being able to view this information with the initial spawn map open. You used to be able to use chat on that screen to both ask the players about what the server needs, and type out skills/objects you could mouse-over. From this I could figure out sky about what is needed and plan an ideal spot in the world for whatever plan or build I'm going for. They nerfed it entirely though.

A redesign of the join card for settlements on the spawn ui is actually planned and would contain the professions of citizens there. A global overview could be added to the top of the map. We have no plans for an overview in the server list itself currently, though - I think that would both be too verbose for that place and have a deterring psychological effect that we don't necessarily want to support, given the choice for a server shouldn't be based solely on the professions already taken there. (And for any more populated server that makes zero sense at all, as all professions will be taken a dozen times) I could rather imagine a intelligent display of only such professions that are currently in specific need, in the form of a "Lacks: Nuclear Scientist".

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Make sure to update to 11.1.4, the issues were fixed there.

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Hey Citizens,
we have just released Hotfix 11.1.4 to address the following issues:

  • Fixed: The avatar creation screen appearing on the first start of Eco displayed a white background and couldn't be skipped.
  • Fixed: Several items, mostly of housing type, could no longer be stacked. (No items were lost, any items missing will be in your void storage)
  • Fixed: Crafting projects didn't recognize stored items if their durability / freshness was below 90%.
  • Fixed: Players authorized on vehicles instead of their deeds could not move items from the vehicle storage.

04 Dec

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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Pots are indoor objects, so their decay halting might indeed only work there where they are active, I'll have a colleague check. The other issue is known and fixed in next hotfix.
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    SLG-Dennis on Steam Forums - Thread - Direct
Will be fixed with Hotfix 11.1.4 in a few hours.