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Save file incompatibility doesn’t bother me, because I don’t *have* to update to A21 if I don’t want to. In fact, when A21 experimental is released, we’ll have to opt in to get it. If we do nothing, Steam will keep us on A20, until A21 stable is released. We’ll have plenty of time to decide whether to transition to A21 or not before it’s automatically downloaded. And even if we try A21 and don’t like it, we’ll be able to switch back to A20 and continue our A20 saved games if that’s what we prefer.

The new alpha won’t be forced on anyone. No one *has* to abandon their A20 game at any point in the process. I know you weren’t saying that per se OP, but I fear some will still assume A21’s going to fall out of the sky one day and wipe out everything they did in A20.

A22 will be the first version of the game that will release on consoles (as long as everything goes well but that's the plan).

This first version will NOT be cross platform compatible but they said they would add that functionality by time the full game is released. They plan to have all platforms update to the full featured game at the same time and from then there will be crossplay.

Originally posted by Shockwave:

Originally posted by Seftak: So in this sense you would say Minecraft, Wurm Online / Unlimited, Animal Crossing, Green Hell and every other open world, sandbox and/or survival games are not games?

I fyou can't lose and there is no story to play through it is not a game.

A game is an activity engaged in for ones diversion or amusement. To play, to have fun.

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Like all the major versions before it, yes, A20 will be in the beta tab after A21 releases.

You'll have plenty of warning about A21- It's not just going to drop in 30 minutes and surprise you, There's maybe one more dev stream coming, followed by the leadup to the streamer weekend, the monday after the streamer weekend will be when A21 experimental opt-in will be available, and then it'll be in experimental for awhile before moving to A21.0 Stable at which point it will become the main version of the game and your client will update.

So, You've got awhile, and plenty of warning signs that release is coming. But to repeat, A20'll be in the beta tab.

Re-fire rate and having to deal with projectile drop and travel time are pretty much the only objective reasons. If you like the bow and have fun with the bow, use the bow.

Originally posted by Desert Rat: You seem to be taking this all very personally, and I'm not sure why other than maybe it's lonely in the basement and you have nothing better to do. My original point was a very simple one, and you have created this convoluted straw man argument in an attempt to counter what I said. Makes no sense to me, but hey, your reality is your own and you're welcome to it. Perhaps you work for TFP, or you are related to someone who works for TFP, or maybe you worship someone who works for TFP, I don't know. At any rate, my original comment was not an attack, merely an expression of my thoughts and opinions. I regret that you took it so badly and became defensive. Go have a pudding pop or something, maybe you will feel b...

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Empty jars are being left in the code but commented out. I'm sure you will see mods very quickly that get them back in since TFP is leaving the simple means to do so.

Originally posted by Desert Rat: I don't have a problem with people who want to see everything that's being worked on and what will be in future releases. I applaud all the hard work that the designers and devs are doing, but people seem to have missed (or ignored) the point of my comment.

I think it is simply that when held up next to being able to applaud all the hard work that has been done and the opportunity to get a sneak peek at what is coming, your point about having separate streams vs one combined stream seems petty and insignificant. Why do you care so much that they put a sneak peek segment at the end of the A21 art stream? What did it hurt?

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My take is, they’re simply cognizant of what a lot of fans want to see.
When are bandits coming? What about the story? Will there ever be NPCs besides the traders? Isn’t the player art getting kind of… dated and fugly when compared to the rest of the game?
Edit: or see “Why player characters still so bad,” the thread right under this one at the moment.

You’ll see these criticisms here all the time. I suspect if the A21 dev streams showed only A21 content, then fan reaction would’ve been more negative. Along the lines of, “ho hum, they’re just working on this other stuff while they once again ignore the issues with characters etc.”

As everyone is quick to point out, it’s been a long time since A20 arrived. Character artists are part of the dev team, too, and they wanted the public to know that they’ve been contributing to the game’s development during that time, even in this awkward situation where characters in A21 will be unchanged.

I think they did just that for the first 3/4 of the stream. Easy solution was to just close your browser after the A21 info ended and then you wouldn’t have to pollute your senses with A22 info.

The fact is that A21/22 are all meshed together. The characters, bandits, and armors that were shown were worked on by artists who didn’t quite make the deadline and so their stuff got pushed to A22 but they wanted to show fans what they’d been working on.

It was a nice gesture to their hard work giving them some time, it was put at the end so that folks like you could switch it off, and 99.99% of the rest of us were pleased to get a sneak peak at whatever is being worked on whether it be A21, A22, or even something planned for after that.

It's because it was stuff that was in development in A21 but got pushed back. Anytime they're talking about A22 it's "this is stuff we worked in in this period".

I generally understand the sentiment that they should focus on the A21 stuff.. But like Doc, I'd rather see everything they're willing to share, because it's stuff they've worked on during A21's development.

Updating to A21 won't delete your world, But you won't be able to play the world on A21..

In order to continue your save you have a few options. One, you can just opt back into A20 when A21 is released. Alternatively, You can just copy the game folder currently from wherever you have it installed to another location, and launch the copy from the .exe in it's folder; That copy won't ever be updated by steam, and the copy managed by steam will be updated to A21 when it's time for that.

Well, You're finding it hard to find because there isn't a concrete date to find. When there is one, It'll be pinned in general discussions.

As for when, We don't know yet. There isn't a concrete date for it. We just know based on past releases that the dev streams start 1-2 months before the streamer weekend, and the streamer weekend begins the friday before the monday the release will be on.

So, the closest estimate we have is some time in may, june if there's any major problems.